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Post by allenreed on Dec 19, 2013 20:38:14 GMT -5
Does anyone here watch this show? What's it about? These guys all look like bikers, but evidently they're very successful. Saw on the news that the speech police got one of them, and now they suspended him from the show, yet they're still going to show reruns with him in them. Sounds hypocritical to me.
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Post by rxmeister on Dec 20, 2013 8:23:36 GMT -5
He supposedly made anti black and anti gay comments in GQ magazine. Never watched the show, but I've heard they look like ZZ Top and have made millions inventing duck calling devices for hunters. Very shocking when uneducated rednecks from Deep South make uneducated comments. He certainly has a right to free speech in this country, but what did that station expect when they hired these guys? The redneck thing is what they were looking for, isn't it?
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Post by allenreed on Dec 20, 2013 11:40:37 GMT -5
Exactly. When it comes to liberals though, unless you recite the liberal dogma, free speech is dead. I saw the quote on television and race had nothing to do with it, at least in what they showed. Sounds like he was just telling what he believes as a Christian. Funny guys like Ricky Gervais. Jon Stewart and Bill Maher can make fun of Christians and their beliefs all they want, and no action is taken. I watch Big Bang Theory, and one of the character's mom is a devout Christian and her beliefs are consistently held up to ridicule.
Anyway, I think A&E needs these guys alot more then they need A&E. Evidently it's their top rated show. Doubt these guys would have trouble getting another gig if they want one.
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Post by sfgdood on Dec 20, 2013 12:40:29 GMT -5
the comments to GQ were an expression of religious beliefs. His Network, A&E, then suspended him for it. Apparently the network of Bates Motel and The Killer Speaks draws the moral line at Corinthians 6: 9-11. Cracks me up that liberals will viciously attack Christians who make a comment even remotely against the LGBT lifestyle, but when it comes to Muslims literally killing gays on a daily basis, they are incredibly silent...in fact they want to send them more money.
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Post by rxmeister on Dec 20, 2013 13:44:12 GMT -5
Allen, he said he used to work with black people because he was "white trash" which kind of infers that any white person above that level shouldn't be associating with blacks. He talked about them picking cotton and singing songs and said they're happy doing that kind of work, which kind of brings up slavery images, don't you think? The guy is a racist homophobic moron and like I said, I don't think he should have been fired because he has a right to say whatever stupid thing he wants, but the hurtful comments he made leaves him open for that. As for you guys with your liberal- conservative nonsense on every issue, give it a rest already. There's nothing political about this. People have a right to be hurt by his stupid comments. When someone makes a comment about gays and blacks I care about THEIR opinion, not some white guys.
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Post by allenreed on Dec 20, 2013 14:06:50 GMT -5
They have a right to be hurt. I'm sure Sarah Palin is hurt when Maher refers to her as a c*** (euphemism for female genitalia), or when Martin Bashir says someone should defecate in her mouth. It's the double standard Mark, and the hypocrisy. Libs go around preaching tolerance when they're the least tolerant of all. Just like the Hollywood libs who go around talking about gun control while putting out movies where someone gets shot about every 30 seconds.
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Post by sfgdood on Dec 20, 2013 14:46:24 GMT -5
Just read the full comments. Rx left out a few details. Like Robertson explaining that he grew up in a rural farming community where blacks and working class whites often worked together in fields. He explained that he himself hoed cotton, not just the blacks (he didn't choose that crop, it just happened to be the crop he worked). He said the blacks he worked with were happy (which is why they were singing) and that he never witnessed them mistreated in any way.
In pre-civil rights Louisiana, I could think of lots of worse things that might have been happening but liberals will jump on anything they can to try to disgrace someone not like themselves. "Tolerant" liberals are always so very quick to play the racism card...like with anyone who dares to criticize the policies of Obama. To me that's just as bad as being racist.
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Post by rxmeister on Dec 20, 2013 15:48:05 GMT -5
Dood, he said he worked with blacks because he was "white trash!" I didn't leave it out, I gave the whole account, it was you leaving something out. And Allen, how the heck can you bring up Martin Bashir as a double standard? Ummm, Allen, are you not aware he was fired because of those comments? Alec Baldwin was recently fired from his talk show after making homophobic comments as well. Double standard my arse!! You're completely oblivious when it happens to "our" side, which is why you think there's a double standard. And if more conservatives get in trouble for racist and homophobic comments, it's probably because more of them are racist and homophobic.
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Post by Islandboagie on Dec 20, 2013 16:07:16 GMT -5
I've never seen the show, so I can't really comment on it. But I think its time for you to give up, Allen. We live in a world where it's ok for a black man to wrestle a mic away from a young white girl and say how a black lady deserved the award more. In fact his career took off after that. The same guy said that our president hated black people. He has not been shunned by anyone. Just get used to it, Allen, we dont live in a free country anymore. The logical thinkers are under attack from the politically correct liberals and any figure that speaks out against it commits political suicide.
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Post by sfgdood on Dec 20, 2013 16:18:53 GMT -5
Right on, Boagie...also a country where a 9 year old kid gets suspended from school for wishing his teacher a Merry Christmas. Liberals get a thrill up their leg for that stuff.
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Post by sfgdood on Dec 20, 2013 16:21:32 GMT -5
I have yet to have a liberal explain to me why it's ok for Muslims to hate gays but not Christians.
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Post by allenreed on Dec 20, 2013 16:48:07 GMT -5
how the heck can you bring up Martin Bashir as a double standard? Ummm, Allen, are you not aware he was fired because of those comments?
Allen- I think technically he resigned. And it took about a month. They didn't want to fire him, but the thing wouldn't die down so eventually he had to go. And it wasn't like this was an extraneous comment from Bashir. It was a scripted piece, meaning it went through about three other people at MSNBC.
What should have happened is the moment the words left his lips, one of his superiors( and anyone would be superior to that sorry excuse for a human) should have walked on the set grabbed him by the ear and escorted him out the door.
Alec Baldwin was recently fired from his talk show after making homophobic comments as well. Double standard my arse!
Allen- Of course. He didn't follow the dogma. If he had said something vulgar about Palin, Bachmann, Ingraham, or some other conservative female, all would have been well.
! You're completely oblivious when it happens to "our" side, which is why you think there's a double standard. And if more conservatives get in trouble for racist and homophobic comments, it's probably because more of them are racist and homophobic.
Allen- The Bible plainly states that homosexuality is wrong. So, in your mind, a person isn't entitled to their religous beliefs because they disagree with your personal philosophy?
Freedom of speech is freedom of speech. A person has a right to be racist and homophobic if that's how they feel. They have the right to be for gay marriage if they want to. Each side is equally entitled to their own beliefs. I can't remember anyone saying someone should crap in Rosie O'Donnel's mouth simply because she's gay, or even because of her political beliefs.
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Post by sfgdood on Dec 20, 2013 18:26:31 GMT -5
I think the biggest double standard is how this is covered in the mainstream media. That's why it took so long for Bashir to be forced out. Heck Baldwin even getting the network job after cussing out his 12 year old daughter like he did is unbelievable. Al Sharpton has a job after a lifetime of spewing racism and hate.
The biggest problem I have with the race card being played for the Robertson comments is this is a guy describing how things were when he grew up. Not everyone who grew up in those areas are racists to this day. My best friend's late dad grew up around the same time Robertson did in Oklahoma and it doesn't get much more redneck then there. But Harold was a stand up guy, who treated his son's friends like one of his own no matter what race we were. He had some colorful stories about his childhood and OK...and he had some non-PC ways of telling those stories but anyone who calls him a racist didn't know him at all.
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Post by allenreed on Dec 20, 2013 19:23:49 GMT -5
Well, the thought has crossed my mind that A&E did this whole thing to gin up interest for the Duck Dynasty marathon they're running this Sunday, with the offensive uncle. Obviously A&E isn't too apalled.
Also occuring to me, this interview had to have been done awhile ago. A&E is just finding out about it now? The timing seems a bit peculiar. And they didn't know what this guy was about before? A&E is just hugely hypocritical. It's all about the dollars.
Thing is, these guys don't need A&E. They can decide to quit and be on another network before New Year's.
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Post by allenreed on Dec 20, 2013 19:52:07 GMT -5
I have yet to have a liberal explain to me why it's ok for Muslims to hate gays but not Christians. Allen- Great point. Mark for example, likes Muslims. They really hate gays, to the point of beheading them. But the liberal doctrine says you must like everything that's Anti- American, so they like Muslims, and are willing (and in fact, delighted) to offend and ridicule the 83% of the US population that are Christian or Catholic in order to not offend them. |
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Post by rxmeister on Dec 20, 2013 20:16:53 GMT -5
They hate gays to the point of be heading them? Once again you refer to radicals and terrorists, not the vast majority of Muslims. You continue to take the behavior of a few and apply it to the entire race. That's the ultimate stereotyping and racism. And because the Bible was anti gay, people should be anti gay as well? That makes it ok? As a Jew I don't believe in Jesus, but I'm pretty sure that the Jesus I've heard about from people that believe in him, would have treated gays with the same love and respect he treated others with. I think people that don't , like Duck Dynasty guy and you bible thumpers would disturb him greatly.
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Post by allenreed on Dec 20, 2013 22:38:13 GMT -5
No. That's a choice each of us has to make for themselves. Apparently, this guy chooses to believe in the Bible, and he's entitled to that belief as much as someone who believes in gay rights is entitled to march down the street naked in a gay rights parade.
I'm not a bible thumper. Don't be Doning me. I haven't been to a church since I was about 15, other than for weddings. As for gays, if it makes them happy, do it. I make the same request that I make with straight couples. Keep the PDAs out of my face. What I have a problem with is the double standard and hypocrisy of liberals when it comes to free speech and tolerance. Their demand that others think like them, or pay with their livelihoods and freedoms, and fall victim to their vile abuse.
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Post by allenreed on Dec 20, 2013 22:42:14 GMT -5
Most Muslim countries are not hospitable (to say the least) to gays. How are they doing in Russia?
Islam is not a race. It's a religion.
If people believe in the Bible. I guess they would have to believe homosexuality is a sin, no?
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Post by sharksrog on Dec 20, 2013 22:56:53 GMT -5
Allen -- If people believe in the Bible. I guess they would have to believe homosexuality is a sin, no? Rog -- That's a tough one. My fiancee and I recently met a gay guy who is a former minister. He said he fought his urges for years and prayed on it many times. His voice sounded "gay." I just wonder. My daughter told me last night that she loves this kid she has taught who is a six-year-old boy, but who feels like he's a girl. I just don't have answers to these questions. Read more: sfgiantsmessageboard.proboards.com/index.cgi?board=general&action=display&thread=2149#ixzz2o4tWMr5C |
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Post by sfgdood on Dec 21, 2013 0:37:31 GMT -5
Rx - You continue to take the behavior of a few and apply it to the entire race. That's the ultimate stereotyping
Dood - and this is different than what liberals do to Christians how, exactly?
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Post by dk on Dec 21, 2013 1:23:14 GMT -5
Rx - You continue to take the behavior of a few and apply it to the entire race. That's the ultimate stereotyping Dood - and this is different than what liberals do to Christians how, exactly? ~Dood[/ ] dk ..Boy,that is a hard one to understand.....I would think a :Liberal would be close to a filling the definition of a "Christian" ...and what do Liberals do to Christians?  ? |
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Post by rxmeister on Dec 21, 2013 7:24:28 GMT -5
DK is right here. In terms of respecting all races, creeds, and colors, and supporting gay rights and helping the poor, theoretically that's what a good Christian is supposed to do, isn't it? Instead they like to point out passages of the Bible to condemn those different than them, while ignoring the parts that tell them to respect others.
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Post by allenreed on Dec 21, 2013 10:48:28 GMT -5
If you took the textbook definition of a liberal, you might be right. But liberals have evolved into something else in recent years. Hypocrites mostly. They preach tolerance, but wish to censor and punish those who don't follow the liberal and PC doctrine. If someone disagrees with them, or has different views, they are mocked, called vile names, and labeled a racist or worse, even if the topic has nothing to do with race. Our friend Don is a prime example. If you disagree with his views, out comes the namecalling and the race card.
What do liberals do to Christians? Mock their beliefs, try to censor them, and punish them for believing as they do and not following the liberal doctrine. Gays are always saying how hurtful it is when someone questions their lifestyle, yet many of them do the same to Christians.
BTW, I watched an episode of this Duck Dynasty show. I don't get it. Why is this show popular? It's just a bunch of guys who seem to share an allergy to razors sitting around and talking. Maybe I caught a bad episode, but I don't see anything special there.
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Post by sharksrog on Dec 21, 2013 12:52:12 GMT -5
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Post by sfgdood on Dec 21, 2013 14:13:42 GMT -5
BTW, I watched an episode of this Duck Dynasty show. I don't get it. Why is this show popular? It's just a bunch of guys who seem to share an allergy to razors sitting around and talking. Maybe I caught a bad episode, but I don't see anything special there.
Dood - I don't really get it either but I did see a meme posted on Facebook that said the reason it's so popular is because the family represents everything that is mocked by the liberal elite.
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Post by allenreed on Dec 21, 2013 15:53:32 GMT -5
OK, I could see that. I guess I could also see that it's because these people are richer than God and yet are unaffected and unchanged by their wealth. Kind of a real life Beverly Hillbillies, except that they didn't move. But for me the show really dragged.
What's a meme? Or is that a typo?
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Post by sfgdood on Dec 21, 2013 17:24:51 GMT -5
Meme is a new age term. It is one of those postings where you have an image--a photo or a graphic--along with some text the creator typed in to fit his views. Usually the text has a comical or sarcastic edged message to it.
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Post by rxmeister on Dec 22, 2013 6:53:45 GMT -5
A new video has emerged of this Duck Dynasty dude speaking at a church in 2010 where he said that gays "are full of murder, envy, strife and hatred." Murder? And it sounds like he's the one filled with hatred. I can see rallying around certain people who make verbal faux pas, but this guy is a little too far out there to be defended.
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Post by sharksrog on Dec 22, 2013 9:10:32 GMT -5
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Post by allenreed on Dec 22, 2013 11:12:24 GMT -5
I'm not sure I'm defending what he said, as much as his right to say it. What you quote is pretty far out there, but he has a right to his viewpoint as much as anyone else.
Thing is, this is a reality show, right? We're supposed to get a look at these people, who they are, and how they live. If we start censoring and cleaning them up, doesn't that kind of defeat the purpose?
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