Post by allenreed on Feb 21, 2013 17:04:03 GMT -5
Dood - I think it comes down to an answer to this question. Are the Giants (and all other teams, for that matter) paying for effort--including offseason conditioning--or are they paying for performance? If a player is swinging the bat at a decent clip and driving in or scoring runs--whichever his role may be in the lineup--if he is making the defensive plays, showing up to all workouts and participating fully in all team obligations, including with the media...if he's doing all these things, then most reasonable people would say that he is living up to his contract. If the player is doing all these things and the team is benefitting by it--ie by winning division titles and World Series rings--then the team could very well consider itself to be getting good value by the contract.
Allen- Isn't one of the team obligations showing up to work in shape to perform at your optimum level?
What you seem to be saying is that the Giants should expect MAXIMUM value to be extrated from each contract and that is simply not reasonable in today's game. And really I think you have a bigger issue personally with Pablo's weight than the Giants do. I mean it's not like the guy was sitting on his ass all offseason long. He was active, keeping his game sharp, playing a lot of ball. He actually was as or more active than the majority of players in the offseason I would say.
Allen- I would say that would be hard for you to know. As for the Giants being less concerned than I, they may just not be in a position to say how they really feel. They don't want to embarass Pablo, and don't want to piss him off either. Such is the nature of today's game. The monkeys are running the circus.
Look, Pablo's a good player and an excellent hitter. No doubt about that. But how much better could he be if he were in optimum shape? Th Giants may not get maximum value out of every contract, but the player putting obstacles in his own path shouldn't be the reason they don't.
Allen- Isn't one of the team obligations showing up to work in shape to perform at your optimum level?
What you seem to be saying is that the Giants should expect MAXIMUM value to be extrated from each contract and that is simply not reasonable in today's game. And really I think you have a bigger issue personally with Pablo's weight than the Giants do. I mean it's not like the guy was sitting on his ass all offseason long. He was active, keeping his game sharp, playing a lot of ball. He actually was as or more active than the majority of players in the offseason I would say.
Allen- I would say that would be hard for you to know. As for the Giants being less concerned than I, they may just not be in a position to say how they really feel. They don't want to embarass Pablo, and don't want to piss him off either. Such is the nature of today's game. The monkeys are running the circus.
Look, Pablo's a good player and an excellent hitter. No doubt about that. But how much better could he be if he were in optimum shape? Th Giants may not get maximum value out of every contract, but the player putting obstacles in his own path shouldn't be the reason they don't.