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Post by holiday613 on Sept 27, 2023 15:46:49 GMT -5
I really hate to belabor this point, but am I the only noticing that TF is holding his own? Now I know it's a very small sample size but what can't be lost on us fans is that the "smarter" upper management thought that Diaz, Mathias,Camargo and Decock were better alternatives which might have cost us a shot at the playoffs..
TF brings youthful energy,speed,power versatility and solid defense..How can anyone in their right mind think the alternatives were better?
fans have to hold brass responsible for these insane decisions and should boycott the stadium until the situation is rectified..FZ and GK have to get the boot.
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Post by reedonly on Sept 27, 2023 15:56:25 GMT -5
Then team plays better when the younger players are there and go into the tank when the older guys get off the IL and youth gets shuffled down to AAA. I don’t understand how the churn is supposed to work if the guys getting churned in are worse?
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Post by holiday613 on Sept 27, 2023 16:05:33 GMT -5
Exactly Reed..Serious teams eat salaries..Cheap teams like the Giants refuse to, even if it means costing the team games..That's the bottom line
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Post by reedonly on Sept 27, 2023 17:59:28 GMT -5
What bothers me is that it was about being subservient to the analytics.
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Post by holiday613 on Sept 27, 2023 18:45:54 GMT -5
For the love of g-d, can someone please explain why the hell Joc is still dh'ing??
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Post by klaiggeb on Sept 28, 2023 7:46:51 GMT -5
I really hate to belabor this point, but am I the only noticing that TF is holding his own? Now I know it's a very small sample size but what can't be lost on us fans is that the "smarter" upper management thought that Diaz, Mathias,Camargo and Decock were better alternatives which might have cost us a shot at the playoffs.. TF brings youthful energy,speed,power versatility and solid defense..How can anyone in their right mind think the alternatives were better? fans have to hold brass responsible for these insane decisions and should boycott the stadium until the situation is rectified..FZ and GK have to get the boot. Holiday, on a scale of 1 to 10, I agree with you 1,367! It's one thing to be fast. Brice Johnson was fast, but couldn't get on base. There was a difference in the way the two hit. Johnson was long arms and hit with a floppy long stroke. Tyler has a quick compact stroke which loans itself more to play at the big league level. Plus he's smart. And I've been screaming to hold management accountable all year long, but no one's listening. |
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Post by klaiggeb on Sept 28, 2023 7:47:58 GMT -5
For the love of g-d, can someone please explain why the hell Joc is still dh'ing?? I'll even take it one better. Why is even in a lineup? Someone called him a clown, and I agree that's what he is. But he's also a wasted space |
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Post by reedonly on Sept 28, 2023 7:57:55 GMT -5
Since he is only under contract for the rest of the season, it would have been cheaper to cut Joc than one of the others who had guarenteed contracts or opt-ins for 2024.
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Post by holiday613 on Sept 28, 2023 13:19:44 GMT -5
Since he is only under contract for the rest of the season, it would have been cheaper to cut Joc than one of the others who had guarenteed contracts or opt-ins for 2024. Only the Giants, the cheapskates, would never entertain the thought because that would indicate that they have common sense..Joc killed us, the ss merry-go-round killed us, the openers killed us,which led to an overused pen that killed us and all these strategies were employed by the smarter than thou duo of FZ and GK Im not even going to get into the shit signings of Stripling,Conforto,Mannea and Haniger, all of whom over performed not to mention the absolutely doofus QO handed out to that fat good for nothing Joc |
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Post by klaiggeb on Sept 28, 2023 14:41:36 GMT -5
We should have seen this coming by FZ's second year.
He wants to shop the bargain basement.
If White Front stores were still around, he'd be shopping there for players!
And what makes it worse, is that he struck gold once or twice, and the moron thinks he's so smart he can do it every time.
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Post by reedonly on Sept 28, 2023 15:36:39 GMT -5
Edges in this game are really fleeting because everyone else finds out about the edge. He got Yaz and Dickerson in past off the garbage heap but now everyone else does the same. Secret edges now last about a day nowadays because of internet and so many cross checkers actually hired to do this sort of stuff.
Muncy, Yaz, and Dickerson were over five years ago and that’s a couple of lifetimes ago in computer time.
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Post by reedonly on Sept 28, 2023 17:58:01 GMT -5
I really hate to belabor this point, but am I the only noticing that TF is holding his own? Now I know it's a very small sample size but what can't be lost on us fans is that the "smarter" upper management thought that Diaz, Mathias,Camargo and Decock were better alternatives which might have cost us a shot at the playoffs.. TF brings youthful energy,speed,power versatility and solid defense..How can anyone in their right mind think the alternatives were better? fans have to hold brass responsible for these insane decisions and should boycott the stadium until the situation is rectified..FZ and GK have to get the boot. Holiday, on a scale of 1 to 10, I agree with you 1,367! It's one thing to be fast. Brice Johnson was fast, but couldn't get on base. There was a difference in the way the two hit. Johnson was long arms and hit with a floppy long stroke. Tyler has a quick compact stroke which loans itself more to play at the big league level. Plus he's smart. And I've been screaming to hold management accountable all year long, but no one's listening. I heard Estes this morning was guessing what Posey is up to. Buster is not going to let his investment go to pot and Estes really thinks he is having discussions about what to do with those two. This is a very interesting dynamic and I think it could happen even if Johnson gave them vote of confidence last month. Keeping them just because they are under contract is a bad idea. |
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Post by klaiggeb on Sept 28, 2023 20:32:31 GMT -5
I sure hope Buster's really pushing to get rid of these buttheads.
Management people who don't understand that coaches set the culture really don't get it at all. Just look what Dan Campbell has done in detroit. A terrible team until he got there. But he changed the culture, and now everybody's on the same ship rolling in the same direction. And look at the difference he has made.
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Post by reedonly on Sept 28, 2023 21:00:52 GMT -5
Buster is the missing piece. He kept the team under control for Tweedledum. Every other year had no Buster. Then they did a subraction by addition by signing Joc.
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Post by klaiggeb on Sept 28, 2023 21:35:09 GMT -5
I sure hope Buster's really pushing to get rid of these buttheads. Management people who don't understand that coaches set the culture really don't get it at all. Just look what Dan Campbell has done in detroit. A terrible team until he got there. But he changed the culture, and now everybody's on the same ship rolling in the same direction. And look at the difference he has made. ROWING!@! Stupid phone |
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Post by reedonly on Sept 29, 2023 7:07:15 GMT -5
I sure hope Buster's really pushing to get rid of these buttheads. Management people who don't understand that coaches set the culture really don't get it at all. Just look what Dan Campbell has done in detroit. A terrible team until he got there. But he changed the culture, and now everybody's on the same ship rolling in the same direction. And look at the difference he has made. One player said, how can he lose the clubhouse if he never had the clubhouse? This was reported by Ann Killian and Susan Slusser |
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Post by klaiggeb on Sept 29, 2023 8:38:28 GMT -5
If I recall correctly a couple of years back I think that what we were all speculating. And now I'm hearing FZ not giving GK a positive vote of confidence. Good thing for us that's for sure
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