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Post by reedonly on Sept 21, 2022 10:26:09 GMT -5
Buster has joined the ownership group. I think this is good news because he knows first hand what is needed to take it to the championship level. "farhan, this is what you need to do".
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Post by klaiggeb on Sept 21, 2022 11:53:21 GMT -5
Buster? As in Posey?
This IS good news!
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Post by reedonly on Sept 21, 2022 16:04:48 GMT -5
Terms of the ownership stake have not been revealed and not sure what role he will play but Buster will be on the Board of Directors and his insight will be valuable.
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Post by klaiggeb on Sept 21, 2022 19:00:42 GMT -5
I always got the feel that Buster was a no nonsense kind of guy.
THAT is what we need in ownership
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Post by reedonly on Sept 22, 2022 9:25:18 GMT -5
Buster has not just bought in as a token former player nor is he doing the LeBron James thing of making roster suggestions. He is in the six man board of directors so this means he is more than a passive owner and he has a place in the room with Johnson, Baer, and the other big owners. Also, Buster has made a lot of investments (Body Armour, a drink company) and coupled with his salary, the investment might well be sizable. The sale of Body Armour made the Kobe Bryant estate $400 million for a $6 million investment so you could imagine Buster has a lot. Buster noted that he has not moved his family from Georgia but he definitely has a say going forward without going through the grind of managing. Hopefully, with Buster on board, the group will think more clearly. I don't see him making sweeping changes immediately but maybe less of the dumb decisions.
Greg Johnson seems to have replaced Baer as point man. Seems like a shift in philosophy of the ownership. He did a press conference recently regarding Farhan's status but he will let Farhan do the State of the Team address later on. One comment he made was that he is aware of the free agent shortstops on the market as well as the slugging outfielder. This might be a hint that they realize that Crawford has been inadequate in 2022. I don't know much about Johnson but I get a inking that he does not understand the game too well because he talked about going after free agents rather than acquiring and developing young talent. He is an improvement over Larry Baer but not by much.
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Post by klaiggeb on Sept 22, 2022 11:36:15 GMT -5
We need to make a couple of moves, and SS is just one of them. But it's also at the top of my list.
Of all of them available, I like Dansby and Turner the best.
I also say again: We need a LEGIT 1Bman. And failing that, IF Belt can play some, I'd be Okay with a Flores/Belt platoon.
Yaz has to go. Has to. Whatever his problem is, he hasn't solved it in going on 2 1/2 years now.
I'd love to see some kids get shots to play everyday, especially Villar. BUT NOT as a 1B man!
He's too short!
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Post by reedonly on Sept 22, 2022 16:14:10 GMT -5
Buster coming in as an owner right now is not an obvious change but I think it might end up being a big deal later on. On KNBR, they said today that he now has a seat at the table with Greg Johnson and Baer but I can see him as being the front man even more so than Magic Johnson is to the Dodgers. Buster has enough money to become one of the major owners of the team (maybe the eventual front man) if he wishes and we know that he does not put up with crap. Benefits work both ways because he gets business experience from the guys at Franklin Templeton and he can grow his nest egg even further.
Farhan was talking about Buster yesterday and said that he provides a lot of in game insight (how certain potential players would work in certain game situations) which I think might have been things that Farhan did not pay much attention to. What is important is that they think so highly of Buster that he is not replacing another person on the Board of Directors but they created a seat for him.
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Post by reedonly on Sept 23, 2022 10:28:02 GMT -5
Boly: Yaz has to go
Krukow was discussing Yaz this morning and feels he will be back but in a diminished role. He did acknowledge that Yaz was always the type of player who would have to fight to keep his job but I"m not sure I would have so many players who can hit on one side or another of a platoon. If they end up with a lot of old, slow guys and a lot of guys who are forced to platoon, then that limits them going forward. I know you like Trea Turner (who hits well from both sides) but I'm hearing he wants to go back to the east coast. I get that Farhan uses the dumpster as one way of preserving the prospects (less trades) and not having to pay out in free agency but at some point, the prospects have to graduate to the big club and Kawakami said that the Giants are now in the position where they are forced to get into the free agent market since the prospects have stalled.
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Post by reedonly on Sept 27, 2022 10:26:11 GMT -5
Buster coming in as an owner right now is not an obvious change but I think it might end up being a big deal later on. On KNBR, they said today that he now has a seat at the table with Greg Johnson and Baer but I can see him as being the front man even more so than Magic Johnson is to the Dodgers. Buster has enough money to become one of the major owners of the team (maybe the eventual front man) if he wishes and we know that he does not put up with crap. Benefits work both ways because he gets business experience from the guys at Franklin Templeton and he can grow his nest egg even further. Farhan was talking about Buster yesterday and said that he provides a lot of in game insight (how certain potential players would work in certain game situations) which I think might have been things that Farhan did not pay much attention to. What is important is that they think so highly of Buster that he is not replacing another person on the Board of Directors but they created a seat for him. Duane Kuiper was talking about Buster this morning and said that Buster's ownership move actually was decided about four months ago but they only announced it recently because they did not want to conflict with all of the ceremonies that went on this season. The interesting comment Kuiper made this morning was about Buster being on the Board of Directors and Buster had mentioned to Kuiper that "they (the board) may not like to hear what I have to say." I don't know if that is coming from an ex-player, where players generally distrust management or its from a younger man's perspective (each of the major board members is at least 60 years old). Whatever makes the Giants Board of Directors uncomfortable is a good thing. This means Buster did not just sign up to put on a uniform and be a goodwill ambassador but it shows commitment to making some moves he wants to make. Farhan is really excited to have Buster around so it may be that the biggest problem in the organization might have been the Board of Directors. |
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Post by reedonly on Sept 27, 2022 15:22:59 GMT -5
Boly; I'd love to see some kids get shots to play everyday, especially Villar. BUT NOT as a 1B man!
He's too short!
Villar is 6-1". That doesn't seem too short.
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Post by klaiggeb on Sept 27, 2022 15:36:56 GMT -5
6' 1"? It's hard to believe hes that tall! Every time I see him he looks like hes more 5'9:, 5'10.
6 ft is okay, but I'd much rather have a 6-3, 6-4-footer over there.
Based on what I've seen seeing going this season, and moves that were not made, I'm starting to develop some real question marks about management of this team.
More and more it looks like they have no direction, or at least no solid plan other than "well someday the kids will be ready."
And to me, that's no plan at all. But the very least a very poor one.
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Post by reedonly on Sept 27, 2022 15:53:49 GMT -5
I think a lot of people are getting pissed off and hopefully, heads will start rolling.
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Post by klaiggeb on Sept 27, 2022 18:52:45 GMT -5
That would be nice to see, but somehow I doubt it.
I would sure like to start with Gabe kapler!
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Post by Islandboagie on Sept 28, 2022 18:36:47 GMT -5
I doubt heads are going to roll. Farhan has set up the scrap heap defense. If you aren't playing with big bucks you can't be expected to compete at a high level. This is the modern day GMs way of job security.
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Post by klaiggeb on Sept 29, 2022 7:29:32 GMT -5
When you think about it, that's really tragic.
If that's the state into which giants baseball has fallen that sadness may be on belief.
But even as I say that, bogie I know you're right.
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Post by reedonly on Sept 30, 2022 10:38:23 GMT -5
I doubt heads are going to roll. Farhan has set up the scrap heap defense. If you aren't playing with big bucks you can't be expected to compete at a high level. This is the modern day GMs way of job security. The Larry Baer style of ownership was to milk the three world championships and Oracle Park as much as possible and on the baseball side, give the appearance of keeping it competitive but not at Dodger level. I get that they lost a lot of money during the pandemic but they're going to have to realize that because of tech worker flight and the general degradation of San Francisco, fans are going to be hesitant to return to watch boring baseball on a nightly basis. Greg Johnson seems to have given Farhan the green light to do what he needs to do which appears to me that Johnson is taking away the payroll excuse. Somehow, they need to get foundation players like the Brandons, Buster, Lincecum, and Cain were in the 2010s and those kinds of players are usually too good to find on the churn. Johnson has mentioned that they should go after Judge and a shortstop so no more Brandon sentiment. Even Willie Mays said so a couple nights ago. "You guys need more firepower." |
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Post by Islandboagie on Sept 30, 2022 12:18:26 GMT -5
We might find a Cain or the Brandons..but Lincecum and Posey were generational players. While I'd be happy to find some more like Cain and the Brandons, we don't win 3 Championships without Lincecum and/or Posey.
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Post by klaiggeb on Sept 30, 2022 17:17:02 GMT -5
Very true, very true.
But Those teams had a chemistry that could not be measured, and the result of putting them all in the same pot and stirring was pretty darn spectacular!
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Post by reedonly on Oct 3, 2022 10:31:12 GMT -5
Very true, very true. But Those teams had a chemistry that could not be measured, and the result of putting them all in the same pot and stirring was pretty darn spectacular! When they had the past winners of the Willie Mac award on the field on Friday. The one that got the biggest ovation was Mad Bum. |
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Post by klaiggeb on Oct 3, 2022 13:38:44 GMT -5
And deservedly so!
Talk about a guy with fire and heart!
To ME, he embellishes that a hundred times over!
He plays the game the way I WOULD HAVE PLAYED the game if I were there.
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Post by reedonly on Oct 3, 2022 15:22:43 GMT -5
Krukow said that Friday might have been the first time he was touched by the ovation in San Francisco. He got the feeling that if he could rip off his Arizona jersey and come to the other side, he would have.
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Post by klaiggeb on Oct 3, 2022 16:07:56 GMT -5
It is extremely touching!
I know hes not the pitcher he once was, but I sure would have liked to have kept him
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