Brinson

[klaiggeb]

To me, this looks like another Mike Tauchman acquisition.

Yes, it could work out. Then again this guy has a long history of not being able to perform at the major league level.

If I am Ramos and a couple of others we have in our minor league system I would be highly ticked off

[reedonly]

Along with Diaz, they have two of the centerpieces of the Christian Yelich trade.

[klaiggeb]

Sept 2, 2022 8:45:58 GMT -5 reedonly said:

Along with Diaz, they have two of the centerpieces of the Christian Yelich trade.

Yeah, I read that. And as I said, it could work out.

But this guy was drafted in...2012? That's a long, long history of not doing well when given the chance.

Hopefully we gave up very little for him.

[reedonly]

It just goes to show that in baseball, prospects are not always a sure thing.

[reedonly]

Sept 2, 2022 8:39:17 GMT -5 klaiggeb said:

To me, this looks like another Mike Tauchman acquisition.

Yes, it could work out. Then again this guy has a long history of not being able to perform at the major league level.

If I am Ramos and a couple of others we have in our minor league system I would be highly ticked off

I heard that Brinson was acquired in part to light a fire under Ramos.  I'm not sure what to make of Ramos.  In the past, I heard he was supposed to be an athletic type that could play all three outfield positions but when I looked at him on the big club this year, he looked really heavy.  No way he could play CF or even RF.  He's now gotten his BA up to .220 but that is low for the PCL. 

[klaiggeb]

Sept 2, 2022 10:32:07 GMT -5 reedonly said:

Sept 2, 2022 8:39:17 GMT -5 klaiggeb said:

To me, this looks like another Mike Tauchman acquisition.

Yes, it could work out. Then again this guy has a long history of not being able to perform at the major league level.

If I am Ramos and a couple of others we have in our minor league system I would be highly ticked off

I heard that Brinson was acquired in part to light a fire under Ramos.  I'm not sure what to make of Ramos.  In the past, I heard he was supposed to be an athletic type that could play all three outfield positions but when I looked at him on the big club this year, he looked really heavy.  No way he could play CF or even RF.  He's now gotten his BA up to .220 but that is low for the PCL. 

When Ramos was up, I saw the same 'chunky' thing.

I really don't get what his problem is.

I've seen his at bats with us, and they looked good; like he knew what he was doing.

That he's not hitting befuddles me.

Then again, we have Yaz and Wade and THEY aren't hitting either.

Wouldn't surprise me to see Wade admit, after the season is over, that he's NEVER been healthy all season long.

[reedonly]

Might be the launch angle philosophy is screwing everyone up. I heard they set up a bullseye over the pitcher's cage and they are supposed to swing up. Maybe being forced to uppercut so drastically is affecting everyone.

Ramos used to be very skinny and now he looks like Kung Fu Panda Jr.

[Islandboagie]

Ramos is still just 22..at about every level he's been the youngest guy on the field. I think he's got a year or two left before we're scratching our heads.

[klaiggeb]

I would speculate that next year becomes the make or break here from Ramos.

I would like to think he'd get called up in September as we put some veterans like Longoria on the IL, but he has to Show he can hit a Triple A.

[reedonly]

Sept 2, 2022 8:39:17 GMT -5 klaiggeb said:

To me, this looks like another Mike Tauchman acquisition.

Yes, it could work out. Then again this guy has a long history of not being able to perform at the major league level.

If I am Ramos and a couple of others we have in our minor league system I would be highly ticked off

With Slater on the IL, September is going to be Brinson's audition.  Brinson is very athletic but for some reason has not hit at the major league level so we shall see. 

[reedonly]

Boly: but he has to Show he can hit a Triple A.

As such, Villar is going to get the first crack. Villar is among the leaders in all offensive catagories in AAA. This morning, Kuiper said that this does not necessarily translate into success at the big league level but that it means it is something that the Giants have to pay attention to.

[reedonly]

Sept 3, 2022 8:31:51 GMT -5 Islandboagie said:

Ramos is still just 22..at about every level he's been the youngest guy on the field. I think he's got a year or two left before we're scratching our heads.

I really hope Ramos turns it around.  He can turn it around with a good season in AAA.  The thing that concerns me is that whenever someone mentions the minor league system, they never talk about Ramos anymore.  It more about Villar, Brown, Schmitt, and Harrison these days.  He's not even a talking point at the moment.  (Ditto Bishop and Bailey). 

[klaiggeb]

Sept 6, 2022 10:09:02 GMT -5 reedonly said:

Sept 2, 2022 8:39:17 GMT -5 klaiggeb said:

To me, this looks like another Mike Tauchman acquisition.

Yes, it could work out. Then again this guy has a long history of not being able to perform at the major league level.

If I am Ramos and a couple of others we have in our minor league system I would be highly ticked off

With Slater on the IL, September is going to be Brinson's audition.  Brinson is very athletic but for some reason has not hit at the major league level so we shall see. 

Kurkow made a great point about Brinson, and other long armed hitters: they can't get to the inside pitch.

Now, last night he did! And if he's learned to execute that 'bent armed swing,' we may have found something, because he has power, can run, and plays very good defense.

[reedonly]

Baseball Insider ran a piece about how Mauricio Dubon affected the Giants' acquisition of Brinson. Basically, Dubon fulfills a lot of utility roles for the Astros. Brinson was seen as another potential utility guy but not as good. The Astros were doing a bit of a churn on their own with CF being one of their biggest problems. Dubon ends up being half of a CF platoon for them so Brinson becomes expendable.  I don't believe Farhan saw that one coming but its weird how these things end up happening. I guess that makes amends for that stupid Papierski trade. 

[klaiggeb]

Sept 8, 2022 10:21:27 GMT -5 reedonly said:

Baseball Insider ran a piece about how Mauricio Dubon affected the Giants' acquisition of Brinson. Basically, Dubon fulfills a lot of utility roles for the Astros. Brinson was seen as another potential utility guy but not as good. The Astros were doing a bit of a churn on their own with CF being one of their biggest problems. Dubon ends up being half of a CF platoon for them so Brinson becomes expendable.  I don't believe Farhan saw that one coming but its weird how these things end up happening. I guess that makes amends for that stupid Papierski trade. 

I think your choice of the word weird, sums up a LOT of the Giant's moves this year!

[reedonly]

Sept 8, 2022 12:43:14 GMT -5 klaiggeb said:

Sept 8, 2022 10:21:27 GMT -5 reedonly said:

Baseball Insider ran a piece about how Mauricio Dubon affected the Giants' acquisition of Brinson. Basically, Dubon fulfills a lot of utility roles for the Astros. Brinson was seen as another potential utility guy but not as good. The Astros were doing a bit of a churn on their own with CF being one of their biggest problems. Dubon ends up being half of a CF platoon for them so Brinson becomes expendable.  I don't believe Farhan saw that one coming but its weird how these things end up happening. I guess that makes amends for that stupid Papierski trade. 

I think your choice of the word weird, sums up a LOT of the Giant's moves this year!

"Weird" is probably the wrong term but there were too many moves that Farhan signed off on this year that shows they did not do their due diligence.  I'm not sure anyone thought that Walton, Papierski, Padlo, Fairchild etc could perform at the major league level so I wonder if they were even scouted at any point.  What seems strange to me is that they demoted Walton to AAA and then put him on the 60 day IL.  Walton is such a poor player so why are they stashing him away like that?I'm not sure if you realize that the Giants seem to using the 60 day IL as their new loophole and they are among the leaders in the use of the 60 day IL (9 players) behind the Twins (13 players).  

[reedonly]

Boly: If I am Ramos and a couple of others we have in our minor league system I would be highly ticked off

Ramos stat line seems to have improved steadily in the past few weeks. Things don't look as bad as they did a month ago.

[reedonly]

The affiliate that should get attention right now is the Eugene Emeralds. They need to do well in the playoffs because Eugene has a lot of youngsters that we are depending on in the future (Luciano, Matos, Bishop). Also, the future of the Emeralds is in doubt because they need a facility up to MLB code (meaning hitting facility and locker rooms for female coaches and trainers) and cannot share a park with the University of Oregon much longer. The Emeralds ownership will be stripped if they cannot come up with a park so that means the organization might end up in Vancouver WA or Walla Walla under new ownership. Not the best if the affiliate is placed by MLB in a colder environment (a lot of the youngsters are more acclimated to the warmer weather and struggle when they go north).  

[reedonly]

Brinson dfa’d. hacked his way out. They need to stop dumpster diving.

[klaiggeb]

They do, but BFF won't .

He struck gold twice: Turner and Muncey, and seems to think it's do-able again.

And maybe it is, but he seems to be banking on it too much.

As I posted recently, both Yaz and Wade 'appear' to be flashes in the pan.

JD Davis is a lump, Brinson quickly proved to us what he proved to every team he's played for; he can't hit

It's a long list, but BFF keeps believing in a play book that is likely not to work.

[reedonly]

There’s too much information out there that Diamond in the rough cannot truly be hidden anymore. The internet is a much different place than it was five years ago and the chances are that if a guy is on the waiver wire or a borderline major leaguer, they would be exactly that, which is a borderline major leaguer.  Most GMs have a staff that can sift through all the stats and videos on the internet so the chances of getting a good player by dumpster diving is less than it was when he got Muncy for the Dodgers.  

Justin turner was found by Tim Wallach and Max Muncy was in the A's system when Farhan was there so he would be privy to inside information in that case.  I get that the churn is to produce a higher floor but the churn is should not be expected to be a source of every day players.   When the churn started getting guys like Padlo and Fairchild, that's when I question if the Giants staff did their research.  Scott Harris was GM when he got Walton, Padlo, Fairchild so its not like I'm sad to see a brilliant baseball mind leave.  If that is the best Zaidi and Harris could come up with after texting each other in the middle of the night about depth pieces, then the methodology comes into question.  


I really like Yaz and Wade Jr as a couple of my favorite current giants who have worked hard to get where they are at but I think both of them have had their weaknesses exposed, just like Alex Dickerson last season.  

[klaiggeb]

yaz and Wade are two of my favorites, too.

I've stated many times what I think Yaz's problem is.

Wade's could just be related to an injury from which he never really healed.

He's looked a lot better the last couple of weeks, but still....... he's only hitting one-freaking-ninety-threeish!