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Post by klaiggeb on Aug 3, 2022 23:13:02 GMT -5
I mean, that kind of says it all doesn't it. This guy is the dumbest base runner I have ever seen in my entire life!
I have seen smarter little league base runners than him
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Post by klaiggeb on Aug 4, 2022 8:57:49 GMT -5
It is my opinion that baseball instincts aew NOT something that can be taught.
They are something LEARNED when a player is very young. And by young I mean 10-12.
Problem is this problem is NOT new to Giant players.
Dubon, recently, and further back Benard.
But these 3 are not the only base-clueless players we have seen. I just can't remember the others.
IMHO this is an organizational issue that hasn't been and ISN'T being addressed.
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Post by reedonly on Aug 4, 2022 9:08:33 GMT -5
It is my opinion that baseball instincts aew NOT something that can be taught. They are something LEARNED when a player is very young. And by young I mean 10-12. Problem is this problem is NOT new to Giant players. Dubon, recently, and further back Benard. But these 3 are not the only base-clueless players we have seen. I just can't remember the others. IMHO this is an organizational issue that hasn't been and ISN'T being addressed. Supposedy the failures of the minor leagues has JUST caught Farhan's attention. Big whoop. The minor leagues should be one of the highest priority things on the to do list. |
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Post by reedonly on Oct 27, 2022 10:40:37 GMT -5
It is my opinion that baseball instincts aew NOT something that can be taught. They are something LEARNED when a player is very young. And by young I mean 10-12. Problem is this problem is NOT new to Giant players. Dubon, recently, and further back Benard. But these 3 are not the only base-clueless players we have seen. I just can't remember the others. IMHO this is an organizational issue that hasn't been and ISN'T being addressed. Dubon has a chance for a ring. |
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Post by klaiggeb on Oct 27, 2022 16:09:22 GMT -5
Could very well be.
But he still lacks basic baseball instincts
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Post by Islandboagie on Oct 27, 2022 23:46:26 GMT -5
Reed- Supposedy the failures of the minor leagues has JUST caught Farhan's attention. Big whoop. The minor leagues should be one of the highest priority things on the to do list.
Boagie- Didn't Farhan already gut the coaching staffs in the farm system and replace them with his guys?
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Post by reedonly on Oct 28, 2022 8:01:15 GMT -5
I’m not sure what you’ve been referring to about FZ gutting the farm system. The minor league staff has a lot of coaches and many have been there for years some going back to Evans days. Most of the switches were internal promotions. I verified by looking at the Giants' 2022 online media guide which lists everything within the system, including minor league staffing. In fact, earlier this year, they opened a new training facility in Phoenix which has six fields and a half sized indoor field so I don't think they were cutting minor league staffing. They did lose two affiliates (Augusta and Hagerstown) due to MLB's downsizing of the minor leagues. So, I guess you are correct that the farm system was gutted but I think it was due to MLB mandate, not FZ.
I do know that the Giants cut back on scouting because they felt they could see what they needed to using video footage. In 2019, they had twenty scouts, fired eight of them (including Brian Johnson and Andy Skeels) and replaced some of them, but I don't know how many or what their new roles were. I suppose it was less in-person scouting and more on the data driven side and also more focus on rookie leagues and Dominican leagues. I felt that was a bit cutthroat since many of those scouts were part of the championship run. What I'm thinking is that the fired scouts did not have the computer skill sets or language skills.
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Post by reedonly on Oct 28, 2022 8:05:41 GMT -5
Reed- Supposedy the failures of the minor leagues has JUST caught Farhan's attention. Big whoop. The minor leagues should be one of the highest priority things on the to do list. Boagie- Didn't Farhan already gut the coaching staffs in the farm system and replace them with his guys? The only level with “his guys” is the big club. |
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Post by reedonly on Oct 28, 2022 10:26:05 GMT -5
Reed- Supposedy the failures of the minor leagues has JUST caught Farhan's attention. Big whoop. The minor leagues should be one of the highest priority things on the to do list. Boagie- Didn't Farhan already gut the coaching staffs in the farm system and replace them with his guys? I'm hoping Putila will straighten things out because player acquisition and development is a big part of the Houston model. As I mentioned before, whoever they hire as GM has a chance to be Director of Baseball Operations in a few years if FZ is still putzing around. |
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Post by reedonly on Oct 28, 2022 10:38:59 GMT -5
Could very well be. But he still lacks basic baseball instincts Some of the radio guys want Houston to win because of Dusty. Not me. That one still hurts twenty years later. |
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Post by klaiggeb on Oct 29, 2022 8:42:22 GMT -5
I cannot pull for dusty Baker in any shape or form. When he was managing our team, and continually supported the progress of the young kids, he lost me. And that doesn't even begin to talk about pulling or tease pulling ortiz in the World Series
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Post by reedonly on Nov 8, 2022 20:16:55 GMT -5
I cannot pull for dusty Baker in any shape or form. When he was managing our team, and continually supported the progress of the young kids, he lost me. And that doesn't even begin to talk about pulling or tease pulling ortiz in the World Series I was rooting for the Phiilies but they were overmatched so I am content with LA being ousted so early. I read an article about Russ Ortiz and he was rooting hard for Dusty. His quote was “So happy for Dusty. I always root for that man. He is now a World Champion manager. Congrats to the Astros as well." Ortiz seems okay with it and I guess both of them feel some sort of closure over that incident but I still will not let it go. |
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Post by klaiggeb on Nov 8, 2022 21:09:52 GMT -5
I cannot pull for dusty Baker in any shape or form. When he was managing our team, and continually supported the progress of the young kids, he lost me. And that doesn't even begin to talk about pulling or tease pulling ortiz in the World Series I was rooting for the Phiilies but they were overmatched so I am content with LA being ousted so early. I read an article about Russ Ortiz and he was rooting hard for Dusty. His quote was “So happy for Dusty. I always root for that man. He is now a World Champion manager. Congrats to the Astros as well." Ortiz seems okay with it and I guess both of them feel some sort of closure over that incident but I still will not let it go.
Personally, I wouldn't have done it, but I do understand it.
I can't root for Dusty for many reasons, not the least of which is that he simply would not give the kids a chance when there WERE times they could have played.
He forfeited their future growth for the "now," when the "now" wasn't that important during moments of each season.
I also didn't care for the way he ran the team. Like him better than what Kapler does, but still, I can't root for him.
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Post by reedonly on Nov 20, 2022 11:20:47 GMT -5
I was rooting for the Phiilies but they were overmatched so I am content with LA being ousted so early. I read an article about Russ Ortiz and he was rooting hard for Dusty. His quote was “So happy for Dusty. I always root for that man. He is now a World Champion manager. Congrats to the Astros as well." Ortiz seems okay with it and I guess both of them feel some sort of closure over that incident but I still will not let it go.
Personally, I wouldn't have done it, but I do understand it.
I can't root for Dusty for many reasons, not the least of which is that he simply would not give the kids a chance when there WERE times they could have played.
He forfeited their future growth for the "now," when the "now" wasn't that important during moments of each season.
I also didn't care for the way he ran the team. Like him better than what Kapler does, but still, I can't root for him.
The ex-Giants that will get a ring from Houston are Dusty, Dubon, and Will Smith. Also, Erick Threets who was on the team about 15 years ago will get one as a coach. |
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