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Post by Islandboagie on Feb 24, 2022 9:55:46 GMT -5
Not much to discuss here with the lockout still in full effect, plus I'm on vacation.
But, I just read an article on Mike Yastrzemski and why he struggled against left handed pitching last season and I felt the need to respond. Apparently he was hit on the hand early on and couldn't shake the thought of getting hit again. They described it as having PTSD. Is this really what is being taught to players? These shrinks that are now in the clubhouse are labeling these instances as having a psychological issue. Does this help, or hurt?
I believe it makes matters worse if you label it some psychological disease, rather than just letting him get over the fear by getting back in the box and facing those demons. Obviously you're going to be on edge at first, but that fear should go away fairly quick, unless of course your fear is compounded by a medical term that you may or may not have.
I first heard the term "PTSD" when describing the lingering effects of war on a soldier...that makes sense to me, and that should have a lasting effect that should be monitored by a professional, but getting hit by a baseball? As Joe Biden would say.."C'mon man!"
Thoughts?
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Post by reedonly on Feb 24, 2022 11:34:37 GMT -5
I hope they are not describing it like that. That really does not really do the players a service and sometimes becomes a self-fulfilling prophecy such as if a kid is labelled as an ADD kid early on and ends up taking meds for the rest of their life. From how Krukow described it a few months ago, Yastrzemski was hit on the hand and he might have been rushed back. As a result, he was not able to grip the bat as well. If the Giants are describing that kind of thing within the organization, it can be another self-fulfilling prophecy.
Speaking of Krukow, he mentioned today that Duane Kuiper's wife passed away last Sunday. When they were presenting it on the air this morning, I initially thought Duane passed (because of his illness) but this news was about as shocking. Murphy, the guy talking with Krukow was saying that when you get to a certain age, you tend to start losing people and none of us are immune to that.
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Post by reedonly on Feb 24, 2022 16:28:59 GMT -5
Not much to discuss here with the lockout still in full effect, plus I'm on vacation. But, I just read an article on Mike Yastrzemski and why he struggled against left handed pitching last season and I felt the need to respond. Apparently he was hit on the hand early on and couldn't shake the thought of getting hit again. They described it as having PTSD. Is this really what is being taught to players? These shrinks that are now in the clubhouse are labeling these instances as having a psychological issue. Does this help, or hurt? I believe it makes matters worse if you label it some psychological disease, rather than just letting him get over the fear by getting back in the box and facing those demons. Obviously you're going to be on edge at first, but that fear should go away fairly quick, unless of course your fear is compounded by a medical term that you may or may not have. I first heard the term "PTSD" when describing the lingering effects of war on a soldier...that makes sense to me, and that should have a lasting effect that should be monitored by a professional, but getting hit by a baseball? As Joe Biden would say.."C'mon man!" Thoughts? Hopefully, they are not talking about these kinds of things in the clubhouse in front of the players. Mike admitted that initially, it was in the back of his head but when he came back, he started out against three lefties and never got his timing down. Also, the pitch hit his hand near his head and it kind of stayed with him throughout the season. I think what might be more likely is that he developed some bad habits by over-compensating for the hand. He has been working on weight transfer and is using the break as a reset. If they are discussing PTSD with players, it might stick with them longer than it otherwise might have. I agree with you wholeheartedly in that if you label a person with a particular disease, too often that person lives up to it and it can become a lifelong problem. The numbers of people who take psychiatric meds in this country is staggering. the question is whether more people are using it to cope or if things have been undertreated all these years beforehand, or if big pharma is trying to get the country drugged up. Its not just a problem in the USA, similar things are happening in Iceland, Canada, and the UK. I don't want to be one of those that is quick to judge other peoples' circumstances and I know that going through life feels more difficult than it used to but you get the feeling that more people are using meds than before.
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Post by Islandboagie on Feb 24, 2022 21:56:28 GMT -5
It's surely an epidemic. Kids are medicated early and often, some might need it, some however have minor social disorders like laughing too much or hyperactivity. Some of these issues can be corrected by a change in their diet. Instead they drug them up, which makes them awkward around other kids, so they latch onto video games (usually violent ones)...and we wonder why they shoot up their school when the meds stop working.
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Post by reedonly on Feb 25, 2022 11:18:58 GMT -5
It's surely an epidemic. Kids are medicated early and often, some might need it, some however have minor social disorders like laughing too much or hyperactivity. Some of these issues can be corrected by a change in their diet. Instead they drug them up, which makes them awkward around other kids, so they latch onto video games (usually violent ones)...and we wonder why they shoot up their school when the meds stop working. I'm with you on this. Medication is a very last resort. I think children nowadays need to work on social skills, speech, diet, regular sleep, and getting their eyes away from devices first...even have TV time outs as we did when we were kids. Parents need to be in on it also but I guess its more convenient to have medication become the solution. It's sad.
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Post by klaiggeb on Feb 25, 2022 19:15:49 GMT -5
Reed: I retired from teaching high school in 2018, and what you are saying is correct beyond belief.
Problem is, based upon my observations, parents STOPPED parenting years ago. Now, and since the late 1980's, what they want to be is "friends" to their child.
Friends don't discipline, teach, nor correct.
And that is at the base of the problems we have today.
Kids are not allowed to experience discomfort in any way. They are shielded from virtually everything, and I mean everything.
In my last couple of years teaching, I saw kids become almost emotionally crippled when a pet died, requiring as much as a week off of school to recover.
Understand, these are general observations and certainly don't apply to all kids.
But they do to the vast majority.
I am also a vet of the Viet Nam war. My dad was a WW II vet, on a ship off the coast of Okinawa when the first kamakazi's hit.
I am appalled, as he would be, at things getting labeled as PTSD today.
Without strong parenting, kids are NOT learning coping skills, much less social skills.
And I'll take it one step further based again, on what I saw; Mothers don't just 'love' their kids, they are IN LOVE with their kids.
It is, frankly, disgusting to watch them in action.
And you are so right; labeling is as a psychological disease only makes it worse, and gives them an excuse not to grow and mature.
Sad...truly sad
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