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Post by sharksrog on Dec 19, 2021 13:27:31 GMT -5
Thanks for the info on Jhonny Pereda, Reeder. Thonny hasn't hit well in the minor leagues, but he's been highly effective in the Venezuelan Winter League.
Did you guys know that after he returned from the military, Willie Mays played winter ball -- first in barnstorming games and then in one of the Caribbean winter leagues? Remember, back then most players needed winter jobs to supplement their modest pay.
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Post by sharksrog on Dec 19, 2021 18:13:50 GMT -5
MLB.com's scouting report on Joey Bart portrays him as a potential Gold Glove catcher. It says that Giants' pitchers enjoyed pitching to him so much in 2020 that they encouraged the Giants to keep him on the roster, and the Giants won 15 of the 28 starts Joey made behind the plate. Joey led the Giants in catchers ERA that season.
So it sounds like the only significant issue with his catching is what Reeder suggested, his having to learn the one-knee style the Giants favor.
From what I'm gathering, both the young Giants catchers are likely to be plus or at least above-average defenders. A little more question about the bats, but they are viewed with some positivity as well, at least for potential. Probably more power from Joey and more contact from Patrick Bailey. In two or three years the Giants should be strong behind the plate and could be in position to trade one of the two if the right opportunity develops. Should be room for both until the right opportunity arrives.
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Post by reedonly on Dec 19, 2021 18:22:55 GMT -5
MLB.com's scouting report on Joey Bart portrays him as a potential Gold Glove catcher. It says that Giants' pitchers enjoyed pitching to him so much in 2020 that they encouraged the Giants to keep him on the roster, and the Giants won 15 of the 28 starts Joey made behind the plate. Joey led the Giants in catchers ERA that season. So it sounds like the only significant issue with his catching is what Reeder suggested, his having to learn the one-knee style the Giants favor. From what I'm gathering, both the young Giants catchers are likely to be plus or at least above-average defenders. A little more question about the bats, but they are viewed with some positivity as well, at least for potential. Probably more power from Joey and more contact from Patrick Bailey. In two or three years the Giants should be strong behind the plate and could be in position to trade one of the two if the right opportunity develops. Should be room for both until the right opportunity arrives. It was Krukow who mentioned the one knee style because the Giants feel catchers would get more strikes in the lower end of the strike zone. My feeling is if a catcher is successful doing it his own way, they should have left him alone but the Giants have run the metrics on the one-knee style and felt getting the lower half of the strike zone outweighs throwing out less runners on the basepaths. I probably would have left Bart alone if his defense was good enough otherwise. Krukow did say that he had a lot of deficiencies and was not major league ready so I will defer my opinion to Krukow's because he did get to see Bart on TV a lot (he lives in Reno and watches the Rivercats games). Also, it was hinted at that Bart resisted making changes because of his success in college.
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Post by sharksrog on Dec 20, 2021 14:38:39 GMT -5
I would explain the advantages of the one-knee method, see what the catcher things, then have him try it out and see how it works. As you say, if it doesn't work well, go back to what works. But if the player doesn't give it a fair try, how is he to know how well it will work for him? Need to get buy-in from the player though, and the Giants' coaching staff has excelled at that.
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