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Post by klaiggeb on Oct 5, 2021 9:56:07 GMT -5
I realize my rotation goes against "traditional" thinking, where you go with the veteran guys first... but here's the way I would set the rotation for the playoffs in round 1.
Logan Webb- They way he performed down the stretch when it counted the most, for me, this is a no brainer
Gausman-No one he fronts the rotation for me. Too many so-so outtings when it mattered the most.
Wood, but it's really a toss up between him and DesClafani.
But the way he has come back from his Covid ordeal has me "leaning" his way for game 3.
Also, McGee would not be my first choice to close early in the post season.
If he was "healthy" why didn't he even pitch one inning in the final 2 games?
To ME, that's a real concern.
Right now, and this feels weird, I'd close with Doval.
Early in the year he couldn't have found the plate if he was standing on it, and now? What, something like 0 walks in his last 10 outtings.
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Post by reedonly on Oct 5, 2021 10:20:30 GMT -5
Kuiper was talking about the rotation this morning and he was saying it will likely be Gausman Friday, and Webb Saturday. If Webb goes first, Gausman will have too much rest.
Also, they will need to figure out who to leave off of the postseason roster. Right now, I see Cueto or Castro, most likely Dickerson. I would like them to find some way to get Estrada on the roster but I think they will probably not go that route.
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Post by Islandboagie on Oct 5, 2021 10:33:16 GMT -5
Yeah, I'd probably give Gausman the first start, followed by Webb, Wood, Desclafani.
As for Doval, I would probably use him against the toughest part of the lineup. Especially if we're playing the Cardinals with Arrenado and Goldschmidt.
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Post by reedonly on Oct 5, 2021 15:06:27 GMT -5
That is the same thing Kuiper said this morning. Doval would not necessarily close but be used in high leverage situations.
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Post by klaiggeb on Oct 5, 2021 16:12:56 GMT -5
As usual, I guess I'm going to be the only one who disagrees.
Gausman going first is what I call the "traditional," or "expected" guy to start.
I'm bucking the experts. I wouldn't do that.
I'd go with the closest thing to a Bull Dog that we have: And that's Webb.
Gausman has shown too many times that in big games, he simply can't be counted on.
As to the roster, there is no need to have Dickerson nor Cueto on the roster.
And until Belt gets activated, if or when, Estrada would be the guy I'd use on the roster.
We need someone who can play GOOD defense at 2B for the late innings.
La Stella lacks range, has a puss arm, and Solano lacks the glove.
And in a pinch, neither would be worth a darn at SS.
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Post by Islandboagie on Oct 5, 2021 17:46:09 GMT -5
I don't disagree that Webb is our best pitcher right now..but Gausman pitched very well on Saturday, and that was a big game too.
I totally agree with you on Estrada.
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Post by klaiggeb on Oct 5, 2021 20:11:15 GMT -5
I saw the box score and it looked like he did well.
Thing is, boagie, he's had multiple chances in big games this year and frankly, I found him wanting in most of them.
Don't think, however, that Kapler is reading this board and listening to any of us... 
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Post by reedonly on Oct 6, 2021 10:32:13 GMT -5
This morning, Krukow was talking about the rotation. It seems its going to be Gausman Friday, Webb Saturday, Wood Monday if the Dodgers win (lefty). Then, who knows for game 4 but they think Gausman for a possible game 5.
As far as the bubble players, Jackson is probably out. Then the choice comes to Castro and Cueto. There is no Manfred ball in the playoffs so we might need Cueto as our Petit guy. Dickerson is probably out, Duggar in for speed and defense. Dickerson can give them a home run off the bench but I think Duggar's skill set is more important in a short series. If only we could get Estrada on the 26 man we would have better defense. The importance of 90 foot mistakes becomes more critical this time of year.
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Post by klaiggeb on Oct 6, 2021 12:11:15 GMT -5
I haven't disagreed with Kapler too often, but if he opens with Gausman, I most certainly will disagree.
I agree, we MUST get Estrada on the roster.
cueto? No way. I'd prefer Castro by a long shot
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Post by reedonly on Oct 6, 2021 21:50:00 GMT -5
Logan Webb has been named game 1 starter. Gausman game 2. Wood game 3 if Dodgers win, Desclafani game 3 if Cardinals win. Webb and Gausman to be available for game 5.
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Post by klaiggeb on Oct 7, 2021 9:43:55 GMT -5
I believe this is a really, really solid decision...even more so when I read how well Gausman and Webb do with extra rest.
In the 2nd half, I learned to trust Logan and doubt Gausman.
I don't know what his problem is/was, and frankly, I don't care.
I never expected him to be the unhittable stud he was in the first half, but neither did I expect his continued command problems and struggles with his splitter.
For a veteran with as many years as he has in command problems are not acceptable.
And I've also mentioned many times the times when he failed to pitch well in big games.
If a guy with his stuff is your ace, and Gausman was, has 10 big game outtings, (and I just picked that number at random) and pitches poorly in more than 2 of them, THAT is unacceptable.
Doesn't have to have his best stuff each time out, but not going at least 5+ innings in more then 2 of them is ridiculous.
If I'm the front office I'm watching his performances in the play offs very, very closely.
If he does well... I want him back.
If he stinks up the lot, as he did frequently in the 2nd half, I let him walk and look elsewhere.
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Post by reedonly on Oct 7, 2021 10:07:20 GMT -5
I heard on the Copeland show this morning that Gausman said he was excited that Logan Webb was pitching tomorrow. This should reflect well on Gausman being a team player in the eyes of the front office. He needs a quality start in game 2 and I think the FO will make an effort to re-sign him because they prefer players who are already familiar with their system.
Webb reminds me a lot of when Lincecum had a rocky start to the 2010 World Series but I think Webb will do fine. |
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Post by klaiggeb on Oct 7, 2021 13:51:38 GMT -5
That 'team' concept that we have seen from this group is soooo refreshing!
Don't see that very often
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Post by reedonly on Oct 7, 2021 15:15:14 GMT -5
I think the key will be for them to really grind their ABs and get deep into counts of Dodger pitchers. It worked yesterday with getting Scherzer out of there yesterday and probably more so with Buehler, Urias, and Gonsolin. Their pen is wicked but got to get past Kelly, Treinen, and Jansen or force them to go multiple innings. I believe Giants' bullpen depth is better but the quality of the Dodgers' bullpen top three is better.
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Post by reedonly on Oct 8, 2021 11:50:33 GMT -5
Historically, whoever wins game 1 of a 5 game series goes on to win about 70 % of the time which is probably why we are seeing Logan Webb over Gausman. I don't usually place too much importance on a single game but tonight's game is going to be as "must win" as it gets especially with Urias and Scherzer waiting in the wings. I am concerned about the playoff pressure but hopefully the Giants' second half schedule helped them learn how to deal with playoff pressure. The margin of difference is literally a matter of inches deciding home field advantage.
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Post by reedonly on Oct 8, 2021 16:54:12 GMT -5
 Note no Duggar who can hit Walker Buehler. |
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Post by reedonly on Oct 8, 2021 17:14:05 GMT -5
Pitchers:
Logan Webb
Kevin Gausman
Anthony DeSclafani
Alex Wood
Camilo Doval
Jake McGee
Kervin Castro
Tyler Rogers
Jarlin García
José Álvarez
Dominic Leone
Zack Littell
Batters:
Brandon Crawford
Buster Posey
Evan Longoria
Kris Bryant
Darin Ruf
LaMonte Wade Jr.
Mike Yastrzemski
Steven Duggar
Wilmer Flores
Tommy La Stella
Curt Casali
Austin Slater
Donovan Solano
Alex Dickerson
Cueto out. Estrada out. Castro, Dickerson and Duggar in.
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Post by klaiggeb on Oct 8, 2021 18:52:04 GMT -5
Could have been worse.
At least Cueto is out. With him not having pitched much for over a month, he would have been "feeling" his way through.
Not keeping Estrada, IMHO, is a huge, HUGE mistake.
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Post by reedonly on Oct 11, 2021 10:31:57 GMT -5
Regarding playoff rotation: Krukow said today that Wood will be a on short leash tonight and do not be surprised if Descalfani pitches tonight. If they do that, who would go game 4?
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Post by Islandboagie on Oct 11, 2021 12:15:07 GMT -5
Who they pitch in game 4 relies heavily on who wins tonight. If they lose you might see Webb in game 4. That's just a guess obviously, but that's what I would probably do. If they win, and Desclafani is used tonight, you might see a bullpen game with Leone starting tomorrow. I don't think they are going to rely on Desclafani to get them back to S.F. for a game 5..that's why he's being mentioned as a backup plan tonight. Basically we hafta win tonight or we go into emergency mode.
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Post by klaiggeb on Oct 11, 2021 13:28:49 GMT -5
Who they pitch in game 4 relies heavily on who wins tonight. If they lose you might see Webb in game 4. That's just a guess obviously, but that's what I would probably do. If they win, and Desclafani is used tonight, you might see a bullpen game with Leone starting tomorrow. I don't think they are going to rely on Desclafani to get them back to S.F. for a game 5..that's why he's being mentioned as a backup plan tonight. Basically we hafta win tonight or we go into emergency mode.
In fact the other day I posted that I did not want DesClafani going tonight because he still hasn't figured out how to beat, or even do very well, vs LA.
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