Giants the favorites for Castellanos

[rxmeister]

From Ken Rosenthal “One of the teams interested in Nicholas Castellanos is discouraged by its chances of landing the free-agent outfielder, viewing the Giants as the top bidder.

The Giants are enticed by Castellanos’ .891 career OPS against left-handed pitching — 1.138 in 120 plate appearances last season — and also believe his defense improved after he was traded from the Tigers to the Cubs.

Castellanos, who at 27 is the youngest free-agent position player, moved four feet in with the Cubs and also played closer to the line during his 47 starts in right field. (He also made four starts in left.)

He was minus-five defensive runs saved in 89 games with the Tigers, minus-four in 51 games with the Cubs – not good in either case.

[Islandboagie]

What's the point?

Pillar is probably a better all around player than Castellanos and we let him walk. Pillar hit 20 homeruns playing in a pitcher's park, Castellanos hit 25 in a hitter's park. Many of Pillar's homeruns and defensive gems effected the outcome of the game. I don't believe we're getting better now or in the near future by replacing Pillar with Castellanos. Not to mention Castellanos is a corner outfielder which we already have two of with Dickerson and Yaz.

[klaiggeb]

Dec 10, 2019 9:56:18 GMT -5 Islandboagie said:

What's the point?

Pillar is probably a better all around player than Castellanos and we let him walk. Pillar hit 20 homeruns playing in a pitcher's park, Castellanos hit 25 in a hitter's park. Many of Pillar's homeruns and defensive gems effected the outcome of the game. I don't believe we're getting better now or in the near future by replacing Pillar with Castellanos. Not to mention Castellanos is a corner outfielder which we already have two of with Dickerson and Yaz.

I'm with you on this one, boagie, big time.

Add to that, that Pillar was known for his defense.

Castellanos is not. In fact, from what I read, he is close to a liability

[rxmeister]

I’m glad you agree, because you can be wrong together. Comparing Pillar to Castellanos is nuts. Castellanos is 27, Pillar is 30. And Nick hit 27 homeruns last year and Detroit is not an easy hitter’s park, and that’s where he played most most of his games. And Wrigley is a nightmare with the wind blowing out. And Castellanos hits that many homeruns EVERY year, while Pillar just did it for the only time in his career and he did it with a juiced up baseball. And let’s not even mention he’s a .290 hitter and Pillar hits .250. And yes, Pillar is a better defender but he’s slowed down already and has become a mediocre defender. His great catches are often the results of poor routes to the ball. But let’s settle this argument the easy way. Let’s look at the contract Castellanos gets and let’s look at the contract Pillar gets. I’m predicting 80 million for Nick and 7 million for Pillar. But how is that possible when Pillar is better? LOL!

[klaiggeb]

Mark, here's what concerns me about Castellanos: defense.

From all that I read and have read, makes me think he's slightly better than Burrell in the OF, and even though they're moving in the fences a few feet, it's still a spacious area to patrol.


Then again, I'd rather have Castellanos than puss-armed Ozuna, who makes Juan Pierre looks like he had a strong arm.

And if you remember Pierre, they had to send the cut off man so far out for him on relay plays it was a joke.

[Islandboagie]

Boly- From all that I read and have read, makes me think he's slightly better than Burrell in the OF

Boagie- You keep using Burrell as the mark for the worst outfielders, boly. That's simply not accurate. Burrell lacked range, but he got a good read on the ball and took good routes. The reason why we replaced him in left field late in games in 2010 and 2011 was because we had very good defenders who covered more ground on the bench. Burrell was average to maybe slightly above average for a corner outfielder.

[klaiggeb]

I should have clarified, boagie.

To me, a bad outfielder is someone who lack's range.

I didn't mean someone like Glen Allen Hill or Curt Blefary who simply had iron hands

Here's my quote from above on Burrell or any outfielder who lacks range: "and even though they're moving in the fences a few feet, it's still a spacious area to patrol."

[klaiggeb]

I should have clarified, boagie.

To me, a bad outfielder is someone who lack's range.

I didn't mean someone like Glen Allen Hill or Curt Blefary who simply had iron hands

Here's my quote from above on Burrell or any outfielder who lacks range: "and even though they're moving in the fences a few feet, it's still a spacious area to patrol."

[donk33]

dk...if they shorten the fence in "Triples Alley", the CF can move closer to LF and reduce the amount of coverage required of the LF.