Post by Rog on Dec 14, 2016 17:21:06 GMT -5
Madison Bumgarner's 2.99 ERA ranks second among all active major league starting pitchers. Johnny Cueto's 3.23 ranks seventh.
Matt Cain's 3.53 is 15th, and Jake Peavy's 3.64 is 18th. Tim Lincecum's 3.74 ranks 22nd, and former Giants Mike Leake's 3.99 ranks #33.
Jeff Samardzija's 4.04 ranks #37.
Bumgarner ranks behind only Clayton Kershaw (2.37), while Cueto ranks behind only Chris Sale (3.00), Felix Hernandez (3.16), Adam Wainwright (3.17) and David Price (3.21) in addition.
Prior to the Chris Sale trade, the Giants were the only team with two of the top 10 ERA's. Now Sale and Price are in the top 10 for the Red Sox.
Bumgarner and Cueto are ahead of other pitchers such as Cole Hamels (3.31), Max Scherzer (3.39), Zack Greinke (3.42), Jon Lester (3.44), Jordan Zimmerman (3.45) and Justin Verlander (3.47). Clearly they're among the very best.
Because he pitched much of his career in hitter-friendly Cincinnati, Cueto actually ranks ahead of Bumgarner in ERA+ at 125 (25% better than average). Cueto is tied for fifth, while Bumgarner's 123 is tied for 9th. Kershaw's 159 is tops, followed by Sales' 135. Hernandez and Wainwright at 126 are just ahead of Cueto and Bumgarner.
Kershaw's 159 ERA+ is the highest of any starter in history, and Sale's is tied for 21st all-time with Hall of Famers Pete Alexander, Randy Johnson, Christy Mathewson and Rube Waddell.
Cueto is tied for 65th with Hall of Famers Lefty Gomez, Jim Palmer, John Smoltz and Dazzy Vance, while Bumgarner shares 85th with Giants Hall of Famer Juan Marichal.
When comparing today's top pitcher with those of previous eras, we should remember that today's pitchers have yet to go through their decline phase, meaning most will drop on the list. Even Kershaw's 159 could easily fall below Pedro Martinez's 154.
ERA+ is far from the only way to value a starting pitcher, but since it includes park effects, it's a very good one.
Most of the pitchers mentioned here rank nicely on the all-time WHIP scale too. Kershaw ranks #4, Sale #10, Bumgarner #23, Price #55, Scherzer #62, Hamels #80, and Cueto #89. There are some darn good starters in the game today, and the Giants are lucky enough to have two of them.
Matt Cain's 3.53 is 15th, and Jake Peavy's 3.64 is 18th. Tim Lincecum's 3.74 ranks 22nd, and former Giants Mike Leake's 3.99 ranks #33.
Jeff Samardzija's 4.04 ranks #37.
Bumgarner ranks behind only Clayton Kershaw (2.37), while Cueto ranks behind only Chris Sale (3.00), Felix Hernandez (3.16), Adam Wainwright (3.17) and David Price (3.21) in addition.
Prior to the Chris Sale trade, the Giants were the only team with two of the top 10 ERA's. Now Sale and Price are in the top 10 for the Red Sox.
Bumgarner and Cueto are ahead of other pitchers such as Cole Hamels (3.31), Max Scherzer (3.39), Zack Greinke (3.42), Jon Lester (3.44), Jordan Zimmerman (3.45) and Justin Verlander (3.47). Clearly they're among the very best.
Because he pitched much of his career in hitter-friendly Cincinnati, Cueto actually ranks ahead of Bumgarner in ERA+ at 125 (25% better than average). Cueto is tied for fifth, while Bumgarner's 123 is tied for 9th. Kershaw's 159 is tops, followed by Sales' 135. Hernandez and Wainwright at 126 are just ahead of Cueto and Bumgarner.
Kershaw's 159 ERA+ is the highest of any starter in history, and Sale's is tied for 21st all-time with Hall of Famers Pete Alexander, Randy Johnson, Christy Mathewson and Rube Waddell.
Cueto is tied for 65th with Hall of Famers Lefty Gomez, Jim Palmer, John Smoltz and Dazzy Vance, while Bumgarner shares 85th with Giants Hall of Famer Juan Marichal.
When comparing today's top pitcher with those of previous eras, we should remember that today's pitchers have yet to go through their decline phase, meaning most will drop on the list. Even Kershaw's 159 could easily fall below Pedro Martinez's 154.
ERA+ is far from the only way to value a starting pitcher, but since it includes park effects, it's a very good one.
Most of the pitchers mentioned here rank nicely on the all-time WHIP scale too. Kershaw ranks #4, Sale #10, Bumgarner #23, Price #55, Scherzer #62, Hamels #80, and Cueto #89. There are some darn good starters in the game today, and the Giants are lucky enough to have two of them.