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Post by klaiggeb on Oct 23, 2016 9:50:03 GMT -5
By all accounts, Clayton Kershaw is a nice guy; a stand up guy.
Yasiel Puig, is neither.
Over the last 10 days or so I have literally had ENOUGH of the papers down here saying that Kershaw had now reached Bumgarner status... because he's pitched a couple of good games in the post season.
He's got a ways to go before he reaches THAT level.
And Puig.
What a gallactic jackass.
So I couldn't think of a more fitting way for LA to get knocked out then to see Kershaw lose... get shut out, and the last outs to be made by Puig on a routine, 6-4-3 double play.
Well, maybe him striking out looking to end the game might even have been better... but him destroying there hopes as he did... well, that brought a smile to my face!
Or as one paper down her sarcastically said: "For the first time in 71 years the Cubs are going to the World series...for the 28th time in 28 years, the Dodgers are not."
Kind of made my morning!
boly
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Post by Rog on Oct 24, 2016 22:55:52 GMT -5
Perhaps the papers were comparing Kershaw to Bumgarner in that Clayton got a save and then pitched seven shutout innings (prior to losing game 6). That type of comparison is valid. I can't believe though that they would say that Clayton had reached Madison status in the postseason.
And in the regular season, he wouldn't WANT to reach Madison's status.
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Post by Rog on Oct 24, 2016 23:11:59 GMT -5
I was looking to see what exactly WAS written in the LA papers, and the first thing I came across was from a week after the 2014 World Series, when ESPN took a poll of 16 scouts and executives. The results were:
12 -- Kershaw
2 -- Bumgarner
1 -- Kershaw for the next 5 years. Bumgarner for the next 15
1 -- Kershaw to win a game tonight. Bumgarner to win the World Series
That seemed like a good answer to me.
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Post by Rog on Oct 24, 2016 23:14:41 GMT -5
I haven't been able to find anything recent from the LA press. Could you share a link or two with us please, Boly?
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Post by klaiggeb on Oct 25, 2016 12:31:42 GMT -5
What I heard, Rog, was mostly from LA radio stations. And the comparisons of equality drove me cookie-boo.
Mark's post said it best.
boly
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Post by sfgdood on Oct 25, 2016 15:24:10 GMT -5
No shock that Mr stats geek would take the side of the Dodger
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Post by Rog on Oct 25, 2016 20:26:48 GMT -5
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Post by Rog on Oct 25, 2016 20:50:53 GMT -5
What I heard, Rog, was mostly from LA radio stations. And the comparisons of equality drove me cookie-boo. Rog -- If it was on radio, was it the announcers or the callers? If what they were saying drove you crazy, why not simply ignore it? Why not keep it simple? Clayton is one of the best regular season pitchers of all time, and Madison has been one of the best postseason pitchers. I could make an argument that during my lifetime, Clayton has been the best regular season pitcher, Madison has been the best postseason pitcher, and Sandy has been he best combination of the two. Pedro Martinez may have been the most dominant, and Roger Clemens may have had the best long-term career. Perhaps Greg Maddux had the best non-steroid-aided long-term career. Randy Johnson, Tom Seaver, Bob Gibson and Juan Marichal were stellar. Jim Palmer too. I perhaps underrated Whitey Ford the most. Don Drysdale was perhaps the most overrated. Gaylord Perry had perhaps the most surprising career and was perhaps the Giants' worst trade ever. Mariano Rivera was perhaps the most dominant player at his position,and that position has exploded in performance since he retired. Mariano perhaps was the first of the unbelievable closers (unless one placed Dennis Eckersley there first). Five very big impacts on the game during my lifetime have been black and international players, the relief specialists, steroids, front offices who combine scouting and analytics, and the over shift. Although it's tempting to go back to my childhood memories, when the players were literally bigger than (my) life, the caliber of play is likely much better now, as it is in just about every sport. Players are bigger, stronger and faster, and we know so much more about the sports themselves. The top geniuses in the big four sports during my lifetime may have been Bill Walsh, Jerry West and Scotty Bowman. Baseball is a tough call in that regard, but we could do worse than Branch Rickey. The best thing to happen in sports (although in some cases it preceded me) has to be the breaking of the color line. Baseball player I have the most respect for? Probably Sandy Koufax. Read more: sfgiantsmessageboard.proboards.com/thread/3561/sweets-sweet?page=1#ixzz4O9O0wApS |
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Post by klaiggeb on Oct 26, 2016 12:36:44 GMT -5
It was former pro athletes and commentators AND analysts, Rog.
I never pay attention to callers, because the vast majority of callers I've heard over the year, don't know their proverbial ass from a hole in the ground.
boly
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Post by Rog on Oct 26, 2016 14:40:01 GMT -5
It was former pro athletes and commentators AND analysts Rog -- I know we criticize commentators and analysts, but why do we think former pros were comparing Kershaw in the postseason to Bumgarner in the postseason? I don't agree with them, which makes it all the harder for me to understand why they were saying what they were saying. Read more: sfgiantsmessageboard.proboards.com/thread/3561/sweets-sweet#ixzz4ODog8nAN |
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