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Post by klaiggeb on Sept 17, 2016 23:15:18 GMT -5
What in the god-damned hell is going on in Bochy's head?
One run lead, and he brings in his gas can..to blow yet another game.
He is what I said he was a A STUBBORN JACKASS!
This one's on you, MEAT HEAD!
boly
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Post by Rog on Sept 18, 2016 10:49:18 GMT -5
Bruce doesn't have much of a bullpen to rely on. It's a shame Derek Law was injured, since otherwise he would likely be the Giants closer. I myself make him the closer immediately, and Bochy may do so as well. Last night Law once again pitched well in a set up role.
There were things he could have done differently. He could have stuck with Will Smith instead of pinch hitting for him and bringing in another lefty (Lopez). Smith might have been able to pitch the whole eighth. Bochy might well have double switched with Adrianza and Nunez, but in a one-run game, Bruce likely wanted to keep Nunez's glove and bat in the game.
He could have saved Law for his closer, but Derek had only one outing since coming off the disabled list and was unable to pitch in the minor leagues for rehab, since San Jose lost out in the first round of their playoffs.
He could have stuck with Romo, but Sergio had given up a home run in just a third of an inning in his previous appearance. Given that Sergio hadn't pitched in six days, he may have some arm soreness and was available only for a limited number of pitches.
Sergio has 14 holds and no blown saves, plus he has successful closing experience, so one could make an argument for him to close, but his .761 OPS against right-handers isn't great, and his .815 against lefties isn't even good. Sergio's career marks are .542 and .668, so he hasn't been anywhere near his former self.
The problem Bochy faces is that he's got only two relievers who have truly pitched well this season. George Kontos has a 2.28 ERA and a 1.13 WHIP, but he has been only the middle man. Law's 1.90 and 0.94 lead the team, and as of now, he might have graduated to closer. Hunter Strickland's 3.24 and 1.13 haven't been bad, but he himself gave up four runs trying to protect a ninth-inning lead in his most recent outing.
Bochy's choices are limited. When he has good relievers, we say he's manipulates the bullpen brilliantly. But now that he has a very shaky bullpen, suddenly he no longer knows what he's doing?
So I'm going to criticize less but also give specific ideas:
. Make Law the closer. If necessary, ease him in with easy or shot saves.
. Both Lopez and Smith have been pitching well to lefties of late. Use them in high-leverage situations and in the case of Smith, perhaps stretch him out on occasion. Even Lopez is capable of pitching a full inning on occasion.
. Use Romo and Strickland as the primary set up men, balancing them with the lefties.
. Look for lower-leverage opportunities for Casilla, and don't be afraid to use Kontos.
. Use Osich, Blach, Okert and Reynolds in lower-leverage LOOGY situations. The Giants have six lefty relievers if we include Blach. Blach might be the choice if a full inning is needed.
That's the way I would try to make the most of a weak bullpen. The options aren't great, but I think the above would make about as much lemonade as possible.
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Post by klaiggeb on Sept 18, 2016 12:27:37 GMT -5
Rog, in that situation, yes, he did.
Yes, he FREAKING DID!
I'm still so ticked at him I can't see straight!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
What he did wasn't just stupid, but he basically spit in the face of others who have EARNED the right to pitch in that situation.
Choice
#1-Stay with Romo
#2-Gearrin
#3-Strickland
So I ask the question I asked 10 days ago; How many saves DO you have to blow to get replaced as the closer?
Obviously, the answer WASN'T 8.
boly
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Post by sfgdood on Sept 18, 2016 21:47:41 GMT -5
Each one of those guys have had plenty of bad moments too, just not in the 9th inning mostly
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Post by klaiggeb on Sept 19, 2016 11:24:25 GMT -5
Anyone of them is a better choice than the human gas can.
boly
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Post by Rog on Sept 20, 2016 15:14:50 GMT -5
Let's give Bruce credit for trying something different last night. He didn't use either Casilla or Romo. But the result was the same. I think, sadly,the most important factor here is that Bruce doesn't have very good options.
My present thinking would be a combination of Law and Smith, with the emphasis on Law. Lopez is OK for lefty batters too, but I don't think he's as good right now as Smith. Plus, Smith is better against right-handers and can pitch longer.
The Giants have only two relievers who have been solid pretty much all season: Law and Kontos. Kontos has been a middle reliever, and Law hasn't had too many high-leverage situations. But I'd give George a little better role and would simply try Law as the closer, perhaps with some help from Smith.
Right now Law, Kontos, Smith and Gearrin are the best-performing relievers. Law and Kontos have done it consistenty, and Smith and Gearrin have been coming on of late. That said, the Giants used both Law and Smith last night (primarily in the eighth inning), and they still lost. The pair wasn't horrible, but they retired only three of the five batters they faced.
But get those guys out of the eighth inning and into the ninth -- and see what happens. To me, it's got the highest chance of success. A primary pitcher who's been good all season, and a lefty who has been very good of late.
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Post by klaiggeb on Sept 20, 2016 20:53:58 GMT -5
I do give him credit for that, Rog. Absolutely.
Expect I didn't get to see the game, thank you Time Warner for SCREWING all Dodger and Giant fans.
Doesn't matter what Bruce does, really, because no matter what HE does, or the team does... it won't work, or it won't be enough.
It's just one of those type of years.
boly
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Post by Rog on Sept 21, 2016 10:32:17 GMT -5
Romo was good last night as the closer. Smith was good setting up. Okert was surprisingly good. Hopefully Cueto isn't badly hurt.
Speaking of the last, whom would we start if Johnny can't go?
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Post by klaiggeb on Sept 21, 2016 15:54:38 GMT -5
If it's a groin, and speaking from a LOT of experience... he's done for at least 2 weeks.
If not Cueto... and IF we're still in it...yeah, sure, I'm guessing Cain.
if we're out, I want to see Blach
boly
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Post by Rog on Sept 21, 2016 16:08:28 GMT -5
It was discouraging that Johnny just couldn't go -- despite appearing to give his all in trying to do so. Cain seems like a very reasonable choice. Maybe Peavy.
Since Johnny's start would be only five games away, it seems unlikely that the Giants will be out of the Wild Card race. It is possible they would be hanging by a thread, but they almost certainly won't be out of it.
If Johnny's season has ended, it will have been a fine one. Easily the Giants' best off-season signing of the winter. In fact, aside from Barry Bonds prior to the 1993 season, could he be the Giants' best off-season signing ever?
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Post by klaiggeb on Sept 21, 2016 20:10:15 GMT -5
He was indeed, a great signing.
But his injury, as was Crawford's... are nothing more than exclamation points on all that went wrong this season.
We couldn't have won even if we had done everything perfectly.
It just wasn't in the cards.
Like I keep saying; At crunch time, if it CAN go wrong, it will.
boly
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Post by Rog on Sept 22, 2016 19:42:49 GMT -5
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Post by klaiggeb on Sept 23, 2016 13:40:58 GMT -5
Rog, you miss the point.
Even on the pregame SHOWS... Flannery and others continue to talk about all of the 'weird stuff' that's been happening for over 2 months.
That's what I'm talking about.
boly
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