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Post by klaiggeb on Aug 19, 2016 20:11:08 GMT -5
I, for one, and flat out sick and tired of the guy behind the plate having so much influence on the way a game turns out.
Before Ruggiano's HR... Bumgarner struck him out.
He did.
That pitch was a strike, and HAD BEEN CALLED A STRIKE, before.
But not that time.
Umpires are a part of the game, and I guess so is BAD umpiring.
And that's what we saw from the clown behind the plate, and not just on that pitch.
I'm tired of it.
I really, really am.
boly
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sfgdood
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stats geeks never played the game...that's why they don't get it and never will
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Post by sfgdood on Aug 19, 2016 20:41:20 GMT -5
Exactly why the time is overdue to start using electronic strike zones. Unfortunately it will likely take one of the darling teams like Chicago or Boston getting royally screwed in the postseason before we see it
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Post by Rog on Aug 19, 2016 20:53:16 GMT -5
I'm tired of it. I really, really am. Rog -- No question calls are missed, both at the plate and on the bases. But still no one has answered this question: If umpiring is so easy and there are thousands who would love to umpire major league baseball, why does MLB pick so many bad umpires with such a pool to choose from? Even in the minor leagues, umpires are evaluated on close to an every game basis. Is it possible umpiring isn't as easy as it looks, kind of like free throw shooting -- or in the case of baseball, fielding a ground ball and throwing it accurately to a base, or perhaps hitting "hitter's" pitches? Why are so many calls missed by the best umpires MLB can find? Until that question can be answered, I think we need to assume that umpiring IS harder than it looks. I have to admit I found umpiring the plate to be easy. But I didn't call nearly as much speed and movement, and I likely missed more than it seemed. If umpiring is easy, why can't MLB find better umpires? Something is missing in this equation. Read more: sfgiantsmessageboard.proboards.com/thread/3443/screwed-again#ixzz4HpiNl0zx |
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Post by klaiggeb on Aug 19, 2016 21:36:10 GMT -5
No one is doubting that the job is hard, Rog,very, very hard.
But I want the call RIGHT.
That's why I LOVE instant replay on the bases.
Even when the call goes against us, they get it right.
boly
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Post by Rog on Aug 20, 2016 9:37:23 GMT -5
I want to get the call right almost as much as I did when umpiring, and I too love instant replay and believe the technology is there to call virtually the entire game electronically.
My point though is that as long as humans continue to be used, MLB is surely searching for the best human umpires it can find, and it has thousands of umpires who would love the job -- and a long minor league training and evaluation process. So we might as well live with what we have -- all the while hoping the next crop of umpires is better than the existing ones.
But there is really no more reason to hate umpires any more than to hate our own players, who "miss" more often than the umpires. If we can accept that hitting is so hard that even the best hitters don't get a hit much more than 30% of the time, surely we can accept that umpires will miss a small percentage of calls. WE'RE TALKING ABOUT HUMANS, and mistakes will be made -- even by the best.
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Post by klaiggeb on Aug 20, 2016 10:28:17 GMT -5
Roger, there is no questioning that everything you said is true.
That doesn't change my opinion one iota.
Not one.
They are a necessary evil right now, but I still don't like them.
I contend, and I will to my grave, that they often make up their mind what to call before the play unfolds OR, are influenced before the play, plays out and THAT effects their decision.
For years and YEARS I watched a ball beat the runner to a base, the runner slides, the tag is MISSED, but the runner WAS STILL CALLED OUT... simply because he 'should have been out.'
Same thing behind the plate.
Not one umpire calls the rule book strike zone.
Not one.
Corners float, high and low float.
And last night that jackass behind the plate called AT LEAST 5 or 6 pitches that were no where near the plate strikes!
He HOSED Span with 2 pitches so far outside the catcher had to lean past the plate to catch them!
Tried his BEST to take the bat out of Span's hands!
But Denard beat him, and that's hard to do when you DON'T know what strike zone is being called as a hitter.
The guys in blue have too much influence on the out come of games and that needs to stop.
boly
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Post by Rog on Aug 23, 2016 9:21:08 GMT -5
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