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Post by klaiggeb on Aug 29, 2015 18:27:02 GMT -5
No question, without Panik, Pence and Crawford, we're at even less than 1/2 strength.
But other veterans have to pick up the slack, and IMHO, Aoki is not doing that.
Since returning from that broken bone, he's love something like 13 points on his BA, and his OBP is sinking faster than the Titanic.
Honestly, I have no clue what his problem is... but right now, in that one hole, he's not helping us much at all.
Belt is another.
Not only has the power dried up, but so has the RBIs.
Can't expect kids to carry the club.
And Byrd... don't even get me started.
That guy takes more gutted strikes than anyone I've ever seen.
boly
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Post by sfgdood on Aug 29, 2015 18:33:08 GMT -5
In fairness to Nori, he did stink it up after returning from the broken foot...but then he had turned it around and was doing well again when he got beaned. I don't know if the concussion has had lingering effects on his hitting or if he just takes time to get into a groove at the plate. I recall that in spring training he started off in a huge funk but then got it going right at the end and carried on the good vibes into the regular season.
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Post by klaiggeb on Aug 29, 2015 21:05:07 GMT -5
I've been thinking about the beaning, too, Randy.
I remember how it messed up Robby Thompson for a while, too.
Could be the reason.
He's just not the same guy.
Heck, even his defense in LF has taken a dive.
All of a sudden, he looks lost out there, which he didn't appear to be for most of the year.
boly
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Post by rxmeister on Aug 30, 2015 8:58:31 GMT -5
The injuries have definitely taken their toll on Aoki. As for Byrd, he's all or nothing, but I find it hard to complain about a player who hits a three run HR on Thursday, a grand slam on Friday and then goes hitless on Saturday. He's carrying them right now.
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Post by klaiggeb on Aug 30, 2015 9:38:03 GMT -5
He is that, Mark.
But watching Byrd play, I really understand why he's been with 9 teams in 14 years.
They described him as "feast or famine" on the Post Game show the other day, and that certainly fits.
I probably can live with the K's, Mark, but I cannot tolerate players who consistently take strikes right down the middle of the plate.
I can't.
And in the 8 games or so that Byrd has been with us, I've seen him do that 5 or 6 times now.
unexceptable.
boly
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Post by Rog on Sept 4, 2015 12:08:38 GMT -5
I probably can live with the K's, Mark, but I cannot tolerate players who consistently take strikes right down the middle of the plate. Rog -- He's gotten more aggressive this season, but I'll bet over his career Buster Posey ranks in the top quartile in taking strikes over the heart of the plate. And to be honest, I was able to tolerate it. I do like his more aggressive approach, but I didn't once consider trading him for taking pitches down the middle. Read more: sfgiantsmessageboard.proboards.com/thread/3015/short-handed#ixzz3kn4suaAN |
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Post by klaiggeb on Sept 4, 2015 16:43:34 GMT -5
And I never said I'd want to trade him, Rog.
But taking pitches down the heart tells ME that he's guessing all the time.
What were his power numbers last year?
What are they THIS year?
6 frickin' teen?
That's ridiculous for a hitter of his caliber.
Stop the damned guessing.
Identify the spin, swing.
boly
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Post by Rog on Sept 9, 2015 15:43:43 GMT -5
Buster is being more aggressive on the first pitch this season than ever before. To me, it's hard to second-guess the approach of a hitter as good as Buster. Buster might lead the league in hitting again this season, and if he had the speed to beat out more infield hits, I think he'd be clearly ahead. More leg hits and more balls beyond the reduced reach of infielders who have to play closer.
As for not hitting all that many home runs, wouldn't he be likely to hit more home runs the more he guessed? Guessing means more called strikez, perhaps more swings outside the strike zone -- but also a chance for louder contact when he guessed right. And louder contact usually means more homers.
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Post by klaiggeb on Sept 9, 2015 16:27:34 GMT -5
I disagree about 'guess' hitting.
But that is philosophy, nothing more.
Guess hitters exasperate me, Rog, always have.
Guessing limits options that a hitter has.
Identify the damned spin, react to it.
Again,philosophy.
boly
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Post by sfgdood on Sept 9, 2015 16:51:25 GMT -5
I have no problem with guessing in certain situations or on certain counts. To me it shows you have a plan and you're sticking to it...but guessing haphazardly on every pitch is a recipe for failure
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Post by klaiggeb on Sept 9, 2015 20:14:44 GMT -5
And Randy, I agree!
If you've a book on a pitcher and you have a really GOOD idea, based upon history as to what he's going to throw, absolutely!
But most big leaguers guess on my pitches. No let me re phrase that; they're looking "for a speed or location."
Call it what ever you like, boys and girls, THAT'S guessing, and I disagree with that philosphy.
boly
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Post by Rog on Sept 10, 2015 23:22:15 GMT -5
Guess hitters exasperate me, Rog, always have. Guessing limits options that a hitter has. Identify the damned spin, react to it. Again,philosophy. Rog -- And one that if one calls Buster a guess hitter and looks at his results, can be very effective. Personally, I like the approach F.P. Santangelo used, even if it wasn't very effective for him (mostly because he wasn't skilled for a big leaguer. F.P. looked for a pitch on the first strike. On the second, he was less aggressive. And on the third strike, he was downright defensive. Read more: sfgiantsmessageboard.proboards.com/thread/3015/short-handed#ixzz3lOtU4u4b |
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Post by Rog on Sept 10, 2015 23:28:32 GMT -5
What were his power numbers last year? What are they THIS year? 6 frickin' teen? That's ridiculous for a hitter of his caliber. Rog -- There are other factors involved, but this season Buster's OPS is .874, an increase of 20 points over last season's. His career OPS is .863. One can argue whether his season is as good as last year, but it is a fact that his OPS is higher than any season except his MVP year. And while we may be critical of his guessing as a hitter, it is a fact that his 48 strikeouts are 21 below his career low, set last season. Surprisingly, Buster had 96 strikeouts in his MVP season, followed by 70 and 69 the past two seasons, and 48 so far this year. He'll almost certainly break 50 strikeouts, but there is a good chance his strikeouts will be at least 15 under his previous low. Perhaps if he guessing, it's not getting him a hole he can't get out of fairly often. Read more: sfgiantsmessageboard.proboards.com/thread/3015/short-handed?page=1#ixzz3lOuF9VQB |
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Post by Rog on Sept 10, 2015 23:29:42 GMT -5
Don't know if it's true or not, but Kruk and Kuip have said that Barry Bonds sometimes guessed with two strikes.
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Post by sfgdood on Sept 10, 2015 23:39:27 GMT -5
Before the All Star Break...14 HR, 58 RBI
After the All Star Break...3 HR, 24 RBI
nuff said
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Post by klaiggeb on Sept 11, 2015 9:46:53 GMT -5
Roger-And while we may be critical of his guessing as a hitter, it is a fact that his 48 strikeouts are 21 below his career low, set last season. Surprisingly, Buster had 96 strikeouts in his MVP season, followed by 70 and 69 the past two seasons, and 48 so far this year. He'll almost certainly break 50 strikeouts, but there is a good chance his strikeouts will be at least 15 under his previous low. Perhaps if he guessing, it's not getting him a hole he can't get out of fairly often.
***boly says*** With all due respect, Rog, this is 'cherry picking' of stats at it's worst.
I don't give a rat's patootie about his K rate.
what are his power numbers?
Down
That's the point.
boly
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