In the Barrell

[klaiggeb]

When things are not going your way, it's amazing how often incredibly bad luck plays happen.

Maxwell torches a line drive... snagged by Tulo.

Maxwell hammers a drive to right... right at Gonzalez.

McGehee hammers a ball to rf... snagged by the 2b baseman.

And don't even get me started on Hershberg's assinine, now you move it, now you don't strike zone!

As opposed to Hundley's off the end of the bat single in the 9th, followed by Lemeheiu's cunny-thumber-floink that fell in to rf.

When you're in the barrell, that's the kind of crap that happens.

So when Kruk says were were 1 for 14 with RISP, I say, yeah, that's what the stat says, but it DOESN'T point out how many hard hit balls that were hit in the those very same situations that could have fallen in!

We didn't have 13 bad at bats, some of them were very good.

Not to mention that idiot Hershberg taking the bat out of Maxwell's hands!

boly

[rxmeister]

We've won 4 of the last 5, so I'm not sure you can say things aren't going our way, I think the worm is turning. Maxwell has to play every day, and I'd like to see more starts from Susac as well, with Posey at first and Belt in LF. Everyone talked about our lack of power, but that lineup solves it pretty well.

[sfgdood]

I agree that the hard hit balls we hit with RISP last night was a lot different than he ABs we had in those clutch situations last week against the Rockies. We seem to be as a team more focused now at the plate than we had been all Spring and in the first part of this month.

[klaiggeb]

Mark, yeah, we've won 4 of 5, but we could easily have won on Friday with ANY breaks at all.

Same with last night; a couple of breaks, and it's not an extra inning game.

My point is, you have to like the at bats we're taking right now.

boly

[sfgdood]

The pitching wasn't on par Friday either...way too many mistakes UP in the zone

[Rog]

Mark -- We've won 4 of the last 5, so I'm not sure you can say things aren't going our way, I think the worm is turning. Maxwell has to play every day, and I'd like to see more starts from Susac as well, with Posey at first and Belt in LF. Everyone talked about our lack of power, but that lineup solves it pretty well.

Rog -- The issue there is do the Giants take their best everyday hitter out of the lineup, or do they play him in center field?




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[rxmeister]

You think Aoki is the best hitter in the Giants lineup? Right now Pagan is out hitting him by 50 points! By the way, Bochy agrees with me, and he mentioned yesterday that he will play Belt in LF more often.

[klaiggeb]

Mark-Right now Pagan is out hitting him by 50 points! By the way, Bochy agrees with me, and he mentioned yesterday that he will play Belt in LF more often.

Rea***boly says---

If that's true, it's going to make things very, very interesting once Pence returns.

Aoki, Belt, Pagan, Pence, Maxwell all vying for OF time, especially vs a LHP.


Aoki hits them very well.

So really the problem becomes: Aoki, Belt, Pagan, Pence, Maxwell and Susac, all vying for time at 1B, C, and OF.

On paper, not bad choices to have.

But the reality is SOMEONE(s) are going to be ticked about not playing every day, OR worse, being platooned.

This situation has the "potential" to explode, much like 1963 when McCovey and Cepeda were both bying for 1B.

The OF was Mays, F. Alou, Kuenn, Cepeda/McCovey. Lots of hard feelings developed.

boly

boly

[Islandboagie]

Mark- You think Aoki is the best hitter in the Giants lineup? Right now Pagan is out hitting him by 50 points! By the way, Bochy agrees with me, and he mentioned yesterday that he will play Belt in LF more often.

Boagie- Nice catch Mark. It should also be noted that a number of posters here disagreed with Bochy's plan of batting Pagan 3rd when the season started. I believe most of them thought Belt was more suited for the 3rd spot.

[klaiggeb]

For what it's worth, Boagie, I was one of them.

With Pence out, he's done a nice, nice job.

But... B U T after Pence gets back, that's got to stop.

He's NOT driven the ball, but has slapped it around. Not what I want from a 3 hole guy.

For ME, when Pence is back and BACK IN SYNC, Pagan hits 6.

Period.


Aoki
Panic
Pence/Belt
Posey
Belt/Pence
Pagan
Captain Double Play
Crawford.

boly

[Rog]

Mark -- You think Aoki is the best hitter in the Giants lineup? Right now Pagan is out hitting him by 50 points!

Rog -- You're right that it's pretty close, and you're probably right that Pagan has the lead. Pagan has the higher average, but Nori has twice as many walks. I have been very surprised though by Aoki's base running mistakes, although so far he's easily been the Giants' best base stealer.



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[Rog]

Boly -- This situation has the "potential" to explode, much like 1963 when McCovey and Cepeda were both bying for 1B.

The OF was Mays, F. Alou, Kuenn, Cepeda/McCovey. Lots of hard feelings developed.

Rog -- That should have been an easy one. Kuenn was overrated and shouldn't have started all that often. He was the worst hitter of the three, and he was the worst fielder aside from McCovey. Harvey did play a lot of third base, with Jimmy Davenport sometimes sliding over to shortstop.




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[klaiggeb]

Rog: Not that I disagree with, because I don't.

But you underestimate Harvey's hitting ability.

Though he didn't have the power of the others, he WAS a really good hitter, and more importantly for THAT club, he hit 1 hole.

Very selective at the plate, with a knack for coming up with the big hit.

There was NO ONE else available, and, in 1962, he was invaluable 1 hole.

And as a former SS, he was much better on defense than McCovey.

But all that said... he didn't have their power, and remember, Dark, in THOSE days, and based upon what I just read in A Tale of Three Cities, very much a bigot, who had problem relating to black and latino players.

boly

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