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Post by allenreed on Jan 11, 2014 16:10:23 GMT -5
Hallelujah. Finally one of these guys gets something approaching what they deserve. He should be banned for life, but this may turn out that way anyhow. He mat get paid in 2015, but I don't see the Yankees wanting to bring him back, or another team taking him on, especially with that contract. Hopefully it's good bye and good riddance.
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Post by Rog on Jan 11, 2014 19:23:50 GMT -5
I think this is a huge overreaction. Not by baseball, but on your part, Allen.
If you said "Hallelujah" after the Giants won their first World Series in 56 years, I could certainly see such a reaction. But after Alex Rodriguez is suspended for a year? I think "Hallelujah" might be a tiny bit of an overreaction.
I could see your saying "Hallelujah" after your child graduated from college and you didn't have to pay tuition anymore. But I couldn't see saying "Hallelujah" after he noticed that you had pinned his report card to the refrigerator.
I could see saying "Hallelujah" when you got a job after being out of work for six months, but I couldn't see saying it when you took a break after two hours on the job.
I could see saying "Hallelujah" when a guy who absconded with your entire retirement savings was put in jail, but not when a guy who had borrowed 20 bucks returned it.
I guess I'll save my next "Hallelujah" for something more important than what happens to Alex Rodriguez.
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Post by rxmeister on Jan 11, 2014 19:29:12 GMT -5
Alex will be going through the courts now, but history shows the courts don't overturn decisions made by binding arbitration. Then again, Alex has some sly lawyers! Just read that Anthony Boesch will be on 60 Minutes tomorrow saying that he personally injected ARod. Should be an interesting watch.
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Post by klaiggeb on Jan 12, 2014 10:28:03 GMT -5
Last night on 60 minuets, they interviewed a guy that says he repeatidly injected Alex.
I didn't see the entire interview, just part of it.
Did anyone here watch the whole thing?
boly
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Post by allenreed on Jan 12, 2014 12:16:40 GMT -5
I know you are always all in for the players Rog, no matter what they do. Me? I'm tired of looking at these guys, tired of hearing about them, tired of people talking about them as if they were something other than the frauds they are. I'm glad I can root for the Yankees this year without being conflicted by having to look at ARod. I'd rather see them finish last without him than win it all with him. Frankly, I hope he never plays again. I don't feel sorry for him at all, or bad because he got suspended. He did it to himself. Hallelujah indeed.
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Post by Rog on Jan 13, 2014 8:25:18 GMT -5
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Post by allenreed on Jan 14, 2014 11:38:05 GMT -5
Now ARod's going to sue MLB and the MLBPA. Just go away, will ya?
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Post by Rog on Jan 14, 2014 13:16:06 GMT -5
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Post by allenreed on Jan 14, 2014 15:16:07 GMT -5
So now you're going to try and inflict censorship on baseball topics as well?
ARod's sorry plight is the biggest story in baseball right now. I guess I could post about Ronny Cedeno signing a minor league deal with the Phillies. Would that help you?
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Post by allenreed on Jan 14, 2014 15:18:25 GMT -5
We could also comment on Chris Christie being harassed by the media for allegedly doing what Obama has been doing his entire Presidency.
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Post by Rog on Jan 15, 2014 22:50:54 GMT -5
I'm not trying to censor you, Allen. What I'm trying to do is help you to stop looking hung up on Bonds and the steroids issue.
The more you harp on the issue, the more hung up on it you appear.
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Post by allenreed on Jan 16, 2014 11:27:52 GMT -5
So? I guess I am hung up on it. I'm for integrity and honesty. I know that goes against the liberal doctrine, but I'm not going to apologize for it.
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Post by Rog on Jan 17, 2014 13:26:36 GMT -5
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Post by donk33 on Jan 17, 2014 14:01:15 GMT -5
dk...careful Rog, the tea party will be after your voter registration....how anyone like Allen can listen to all the lies put out by the right wing nuts and then turn around and accuse the left is beyond my understanding......do you think the left will ever have as many White House workers in prison as the right wing has had in recent years? Tell us about WMD and where those slick Iraqis are hiding them..... |
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Post by allenreed on Jan 17, 2014 14:55:39 GMT -5
Seriously Rog? You can look at the prformances of Hillary, Obama, Holder, Reid, Pelosi et al, and say that. You may now join Don in the Head in the Sand club.
Btw Don, your boy did a helluva job in Iraq. Couldn't negotiate a settlement to leave some troops there, and now it and Syria, (where he also blew it) are Al Qaeda strongholds. And he's also paving the way to nukes for Iran, with his total capitulation to their terms. He actually sent Biden to Iraq. He might as well have sent Dennis Rodman. Biden's only use is that he's such a hopeless clown that no one will shoot Barack.
And of course Obamacare chugh merrily along, ruining the lives of millions of Americans.
WMDs? You mean the ones Obama allowed Asaad to keep?
Apparently Don, a great many things are beyond your understanding.
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Post by Rog on Jan 17, 2014 21:43:55 GMT -5
Allen -- Seriously Rog? You can look at the prformances of Hillary, Obama, Holder, Reid, Pelosi et al, and say that. Rog -- Yes, I can say that it is foolish to say that honesty and integrity go against the liberal doctrine. My problem with what you said here is that it is a generalization. Perhaps you could point out where in the liberal doctrine it says no to honesty and integrity. Read more: sfgiantsmessageboard.proboards.com/thread/2167/arod-162-games-postseason#ixzz2qiKmC7Dt |
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Post by allenreed on Jan 17, 2014 23:51:25 GMT -5
Who do you think elected Reid, Pelosi, and Obama, will elect Hillary, which led to Holder, Clapper, Susan Rice, Sibelius etc.? I guarantee you that they weren't elected by conservatives. Liberals have absolutely no interest in or regard for anyone with integrity and honesty (and judging by this administration, competence).
My statement stands.
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Post by donk33 on Jan 18, 2014 0:44:48 GMT -5
Who do you think elected Reid, Pelosi, and Obama, will elect Hillary, which led to Holder, Clapper, Susan Rice, Sibelius etc.? I guarantee you that they weren't elected by conservatives. Liberals have absolutely no interest in or regard for anyone with integrity and honesty (and judging by this administration, competence). My statement stands. dk...you are a complete idiot if you think Bush and Cheney weren't the worst administrations ever elected by our country...you can make all the unfounded unproved charges against O bama and they will never total the wreck the repugs made of this country....but of course the race card always comes to play but you don't have guts enough to give the real reason for your hate... |
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Post by allenreed on Jan 18, 2014 11:44:52 GMT -5
I used to think that Don. Five plus years of Obama have emphatically convinced me otherwise. Never has a President had such a continuous legacy of failure after failure after failure. One can only hope the country can hang on until the end of his time in the White House. You try to look for a bright spot, something he's done right or has helped the country with. You can't find one. You just can't. Hopelessly corrupt. Hopelessly incompetent. Totally in over his head. And his cabinet and staffers are as corrupt and incompetent as he is.
Other than the first sentence the rest of your post is just useless gibberish.
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Post by allenreed on Jan 18, 2014 12:30:02 GMT -5
Unfounded and unproved. Laughable. Yes. Don't believe your lying eyes and ears, or that lying videotape. Those Al Qaeda flags flying over Iraq, obviously a right wing conspiracy. Syria? Those aren't real dead bodies. Just dummies. Republicans put them there. Obamacare? Obviously a media conspiracy. In reality millions upon millions have signed up, and the website works great. The Republicans are just supressing it. All these guys testifying before Congress that the security on it is nonexistent? Obviously Republican plants. Like your plan you can keep your plan? Obviously some conservative working feverishly in a video lab. Millions of people losing their coverage? All made up. Never happened. Benghazi? Obviously staged. Those caskets were probably empty. Obama and Clinton were probably added to the video later.
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Post by allenreed on Jan 18, 2014 12:33:35 GMT -5
The only person playing the race card here is you Don. Your like a three year old. You just have to be told again and again and again. Obama is as white as he is black. You claim to have some knowledge about what you're talking about, but five years in, you still don't seem to know Obama's not black.
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Post by Rog on Jan 18, 2014 12:34:33 GMT -5
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Post by allenreed on Jan 18, 2014 12:37:10 GMT -5
Also you made a comment aboput voter registration earlier. Only a true racist would think that minorities are too stupid to be able to acquire and carry identification.
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Post by donk33 on Jan 18, 2014 20:01:50 GMT -5
Also you made a comment aboput voter registration earlier. Only a true racist would think that minorities are too stupid to be able to acquire and carry identification. dk it has been quoted that the reason for the voter registration hoax is to deny the vote to the poor and aged who do not have drivers licenses or the ability to get to the scattered places that issue ID's in various states....only a racist would try to twist my words around.....but what else do you expect from Allen... |
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Post by donk33 on Jan 18, 2014 20:13:50 GMT -5
dk..Rog, you can't really mean what you wrote.... is the fact that Bush disregarded the intel reports on potential terrorists were taking flying lessons led to 9-11?? Did the lies about WMD led to two endless wars have any meaning??>? Did cutting taxes and refusing to put the country on a war footing lead to a big deficit bother you?? Do the fact that Bush said he didn't care what happened to bin Ladin after sending so many kids to die make you a little mad??? Did failing to take action against banks resulting in the worst recession since the great recession bother you ma wee bit....did the great trend of lost jobs and lack of any job creation stir a little ire..... |
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Post by allenreed on Jan 18, 2014 20:22:27 GMT -5
It's basic paternalistic racism Don, something that you are often guilty of. You seem to think that minorities and especially blacks aren't smart enough to do things that whites can do as a matter of course. That they need the government's benevolence and protection in order to survive. It's pretty insulting to minorities, don't you think?
Why would Republicans want to keep the aged from voting? According to most liberals, that's their base. You're the exception Don. Most older people develop sense and intelligence with age. You don't need a driver's license. The DMV also issues ID cards. My Dad had one when he died at 94. He hadn't driven in years.
So, this is the deal. We don't want to force people to travel long distances for an ID (which would be a one time trip), but it's ok to make them do it frequently to access healthcare. Again Don, your arguments don't make any sense.
The hoo-ha the liberals make about voter ID is all about one thing. They want illegals to vote.
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Post by allenreed on Jan 18, 2014 20:30:43 GMT -5
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dk..Rog, you can't really mean what you wrote.... is the fact that Bush disregarded the intel reports on potential terrorists were taking flying lessons led to 9-11?? Did the lies about WMD led to two endless wars have any meaning??>? Did cutting taxes and refusing to put the country on a war footing lead to a big deficit bother you?? Do the fact that Bush said he didn't care what happened to bin Ladin after sending so many kids to die make you a little mad??? Did failing to take action against banks resulting in the worst recession since the great recession bother you ma wee bit....did the great trend of lost jobs and lack of any job creation stir a little ire.....[/quote]
Allen- Ah, more softballs to knock out of the park. Was Bush supposed to arrest people for taking flying lessons?
What did WMDs have to do with the war in Afghanistan? Which Obama has bungled from beginning to end, btw.
How's that debt and deficit doing since Obama took office. We don't know, because they never put out the real numbers.
Five years into Obama's administration and the recession is still going strong. Why? Obama has carried on most of Bush's policies.
Trend of lost jobs and lack of job creation. You have to be kidding on this one, right Don? Please, please tell me you're kidding.
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Post by donk33 on Jan 18, 2014 20:40:47 GMT -5
Unfounded and unproved. Laughable. Yes. Don't believe your lying eyes and ears, or that lying videotape. Those Al Qaeda flags flying over Iraq, obviously a right wing conspiracy. Syria? Those aren't real dead bodies. Just dummies. Republicans put them there. Obamacare? Obviously a media conspiracy. In reality millions upon millions have signed up, and the website works great. The Republicans are just supressing it. All these guys testifying before Congress that the security on it is nonexistent? Obviously Republican plants. Like your plan you can keep your plan? Obviously some conservative working feverishly in a video lab. Millions of people losing their coverage? All made up. Never happened. Benghazi? Obviously staged. Those caskets were probably empty. Obama and Clinton were probably added to the video later. dk..don't you ever tire of your lies...if Clinton could be impeached for a blow job, what could Happen to Obama if anything was true about your claims...Obamacare is getting started where the right wing states and their insurance buddies aren't fighting him....the initial phase of adding 25 year olds to their parents insurance was a big savings for many people...eliminating refusing insurance because of pre- existing conditions will save lives.....all new programs take time to work the bugs out, why would Obama care be any different...I spent 5 months getting my social security payments corrected and returning a $5,000 check I shouldn't have received and I took an hour to show the manager of a SS office that their computer was shorting everyone $10/MONTH...3 days later, Washington reported my findings and it cost 3/4 of a Billion dollars to repay us seniors...What is your great concern on what flag is flying any where...per Bush, we only went into Afghan get the terrorist camps out and to get bin Ladin...then Bush said he didn't care about bin Ladin...whose family was sleeping in the White House during 9-11....Obama rid the world of that crud...turned Iraq over their elected government and will do the same thing in Afghan....would you prefer we stay there for.tell me what our people were doing in Benghazi ...the embassy in the capitol was heavy guarded, why did they leave it...why did the repugs cut the funding for the State Dept?? you lie and generalize, why I don't know...but I sure don't want anything that smells of Bush back in DC... |
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Post by allenreed on Jan 18, 2014 22:56:57 GMT -5
You forget Obama's two aces in the hole. Holder, who may be the only person in the administration more corrupt than Barack. The black Howard Sprague is never ever going to do the right thing. He hates America more than Barack does. You think he's not going to block anything like an impeachment proceeding? Two. Biden. Any Obama impeachment means Biden is President. I don't think anyone wants that. The world disrespects us enough with Obama in charge.
Man, you're way out there on Obamacare. The insurance companies know they'll be getting a big govt. bailout courtesy of the taxpayers.The 25 year old thing is what will eventually cause the whole thing to collapse. He needed young people to sign up to pay for the older, sicker people. It isn't happening. What young person wants his healthcare costs to triple along with a $6K deductible. It's a lousy deal for them. Plus, under Obama, a large number of young people are unemployed or working minimum wage jobs. The Affordable Care Act is anything but affordable for them.
When are they going to start working the bugs out? According to the tech experts testifying before Congress, it's worse now than when they first started, especially security wise. What's Obama doing? Spending millions to make and run incoherent ads with Richard Simmons in them. Seriously. If this is such marvelous legislation, why would they need to spend millions upon millions of taxpayer dollars to advertise it?
I'm very concerned about Al Qaeda flourishing anywhere. not to mention that all the blood and treasure spent in Iraq was wasted, thanks to Barack's ADD where foreign policy is concerned. I guess you're still buying Obama's "Al Qaeda's on the run" lie. If we only went in to get the camps and Osama, why are we still there? Yes, Obama got Bin Laden with his bare hands. He did nothing. He had no choice but to give the ok. His bragging about it afterwards cost alot of the guys who did the real work their lives. But, as with Benghazi we know Obama (and Hillary for that matter) have no problem exchanging American lives for political gain.
Obviously, looking at Iraq, you need to keep a residual force in the area to keep things on the straight and narrow. It's just like cockroaches. If you stop spraying for them, they come back.
It's been said many times, by those in the State Dept., that funding was not the problem. Obama wanted to run his "Al Qaeda's on the run" narrative in order to get re-elected. He was perfectly willing to gamble with these people's lives in order to do that. Given what was going on at State on Hillary's watch, they should have shut the whole thing down. She was worse than useless. What were they doing in Benghazi? Their job. I know people doing their job is unfamiliar to people who support the Obama administration.
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