sfgdood
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Post by sfgdood on Oct 22, 2013 12:17:58 GMT -5
Immigration and Customs Enforcement (ICE) President Chris Crane (no relation to Frasier and Niles) says that the "fact" claimed by the White House that Obama has deported more illegals than any president is exaggerated by the fact that the White House includes those caught at the border in their numbers when it wasn't before...a practice known as "juicing." It's kind of like when the administration takes pride in the unemployment number when they forget that the number is only under 10% because of all the people dropping out of the workplace out of frustration from the lack of jobs out there.
Crane said that in reality, the Obama administration deports very few illegal aliens. "We (ICE) are completely ignored… You can be in a country illegally, you can have an extensive criminal history, you can have multiple criminal convictions for serious offenses, and there is nothing that we can do to touch you.” Crane also said Obama has referred to ICE as "terrorists" before. Liberals like to use that one when they get tired of using the race card.
So much for Obama being for border enforcement.
~Dood
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Post by allenreed on Oct 22, 2013 13:18:05 GMT -5
Was there any indication that he ever was? He sued Az for trying to protect themselves from the drug cartels. I think at this point there can be little doubt that Obama's main goal is to weaken America. He's pretty much destroyed the economy, killed millions of jobs, ruined our standing and reputation abroad, and is working hard to destroy our healthcare system.
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Post by dk on Oct 22, 2013 13:59:49 GMT -5
Was there any indication that he ever was? He sued Az for trying to protect themselves from the drug cartels. I think at this point there can be little doubt that Obama's main goal is to weaken America. He's pretty much destroyed the economy, killed millions of jobs, ruined our standing and reputation abroad, and is working hard to destroy our healthcare system dk I was going to keep out of this crap but you are such a lying SOB I'm surprised you didn't choke on all the lies you expound... Weaken American...right, kill the Terrorist, end the war s and maintain our strength...and when he kills the terrorist crude like you cry over the use of drones...killed the economy...stock market roars to new highs, earnings hit new highs, jobs are added and he finally got the healthcare that will help millions of people when they finally realized that the lies about the system you rright wing nuts put out is to make sure that the medical and drug grease balls keep milking the country dry..every one but the right wing nuts will benefit....why don't you just keep this a baseball board and leave your tea party crap to some other odd balls that are just as racisrt as you are?  > |
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Post by allenreed on Oct 22, 2013 15:36:36 GMT -5
Yes Don. Weaken America. Are you really so damn stupid that you can't see what he has done? The economy is in ruins, Obama does everything he can to kill jobs every chance he gets. Obamacare is just the latest example. Healthcare was the one area where you could still get a good paying job if you had the training. Now hospitals and healthcare systems are laying off people by the thousands, and doctors are fleeing their practices.
Terrorist crude? What the hell are you talking about, as if you know. Again you show your incredible, unfathomable ignorance. I have never cried over the use of drones. It's the one good thing Obama has done, until he started using them to spy on Americans. The stock market has nothing to do with helping worjking Americans. It's just the rich getting richer, while working Americans suffer under Obama and his entitlement obsession.
Jobs being added? More ignorance. We're trading well-paying benefitted jobs for part time fast food jobs, Obamacare is destroying the 40 hour work week, and costing millions their medical benefits. You think millions of uninsured will nbow be covered? Incredibly stupid and naive. You think these people want the government involved in their life? Uh. no. All they've done is make more people who were once benefitted workers uninsured.
You watch them roll out this abortion called Obamacare and you wonder if they're not screwing up on purpose. No one can really be that incompetent, can they? You read your posts and you wonder if you're not just messing with people. No one can really be that moronically stupid, can they? I thought Jews were supposed to be smart. You sure disprove that stereotype.
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Post by dk on Oct 22, 2013 22:36:27 GMT -5
Yes Don. Weaken America. Are you really so damn stupid that you can't see what he has done? The economy is in ruins, Obama does everything he can to kill jobs every chance he gets. Obamacare is just the latest example. Healthcare was the one area where you could still get a good paying job if you had the training. Now hospitals and healthcare systems are laying off people by the thousands, and doctors are fleeing their practices. Terrorist crude? What the hell are you talking about, as if you know. Again you show your incredible, unfathomable ignorance. I have never cried over the use of drones. It's the one good thing Obama has done, until he started using them to spy on Americans. The stock market has nothing to do with helping worjking Americans. It's just the rich getting richer, while working Americans suffer under Obama and his entitlement obsession. Jobs being added? More ignorance. We're trading well-paying benefitted jobs for part time fast food jobs, Obamacare is destroying the 40 hour work week, and costing millions their medical benefits. You think millions of uninsured will nbow be covered? Incredibly stupid and naive. You think these people want the government involved in their life? Uh. no. All they've done is make more people who were once benefitted workers uninsured. You watch them roll out this abortion called Obamacare and you wonder if they're not screwing up on purpose. No one can really be that incompetent, can they? You read your posts and you wonder if you're not just messing with people. No one can really be that moronically stupid, can they? I thought Jews were supposed to be smart. You sure disprove that stereotype.[/ dk..F ... you, you insulting little pimp..you love to stereotype people don';t you ...wake up and live. it was BUSH that lost the jobs... or did you sleep through that part of history...it was BUSH that started 2 wars and destroyed our reputation in the world....it was Romney's health plan...and it actually worked...as Obamacare will. too...you stink little fat man and with that you can shove this whole bit up where the sun don't shine.. and your boy Crane is a UNION head...some bed fellow for you right wing nuts....and he is bitter because Obama took away a lot of border patrol from his people and put it into the hands of gu ys that know what they are doing...and he continues to deport more than any other president... and if you read what Crane wrote, he refuses to agree on the bi-party plan to halt the deportation of illegals who served in the military and/or finished college until the immigration plan is agreed on by congress...if you break the law, you go back......but the obese drug runner hasn't told you that, so how could you know.... |
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Post by allenreed on Oct 23, 2013 1:26:03 GMT -5
Actually, I said you DISPROVE the stereotype. I guess illiterate would be the next adjective we could use to describe you, or maybe you just don't speak or understand English.
Only a complete moron would still be blaming Bush five years in, but I guess you have to grab at some straw. Tens of thousands (so far) of jobs have been lost due to Obamacare. Want to blame those on Bush too? Evidently you want to blame Bush for Obama's waffling while thousands died in Syria, his support of the terrorist Muslim Brotherhood, his negotiatying with the terrorist in Iran, and his negotiating with the Taliban, all while claiming Republicans were waging a war on women. Obama's foreign policy has the whole world knowing what you can't seem to understand. Barack is weak, dishonest, indecisive, has no credibility, and his word means nothing.
If it was Romney's plan, why is Obama taking credit for it? I don't hear him calling it Romneycare. I guess Romney hired people who knew how to build a website.
I never mentioned Crane, so I have no idea what you're talking about, so I guess we have something in common there. I'm just amazed that you continue to try and discuss subjects on which you're completely ignorant. You just embarass yourself time and again. What's funnier is your stupid enopugh to support a man who hates what you are, a Jew and a veteran. It's almost as stupid as blacks supporting Obama, when he's done nothing but worsen their plight. The only people who should logically support him are Muslims and illegals.
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Post by rxmeister on Oct 23, 2013 6:47:20 GMT -5
Wait, this isn't a thread on who's the better rapper, Ice T, Ice Cube or Vanilla Ice?
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sfgdood
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stats geeks never played the game...that's why they don't get it and never will
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Post by sfgdood on Oct 23, 2013 11:58:31 GMT -5
Don't know who's the best since I'm not a big rap fan...Ice Cube is the coldest, Ice T is the best actor and Vanilla Ice had the biggest hit.
~Dood
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Post by allenreed on Oct 23, 2013 12:03:21 GMT -5
Ice T is a very good actor. Liked him in New Jack City. From my very limited knowledge of rap, I'd go with Ice Cube as the best rapper, and he's not a bad actor himself.
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Post by dk on Oct 23, 2013 22:27:48 GMT -5
Actually, I said you DISPROVE the stereotype. I guess illiterate would be the next adjective we could use to describe you, or maybe you just don't speak or understand English. Only a complete moron would still be blaming Bush five years in, but I guess you have to grab at some straw dk..only a stupid moron would fail to know that jobs were lost under Bush...Jobs have been added under Obama despite the tea party nuts refusing to pass the jobs bills in congress...,.so stop the lies about Obama losing jobs....you say you despise stereo types..but then you say Jews are supposed to be smart... . Tens of thousands (so far) of jobs have been lost due to Obamacare. Want to blame those on Bush too? dk since Obama care hasn't gone into effect as yet, I'm sure you don't know what the heck you are talking about...your boy, Cruz used a small business owner saying he hasn't added any workers because of Obama care..turns out he has 3 people working for him and he is not required, under Obama care, to pay for medical.....another two bit tea party lie... Evidently you want to blame Bush for Obama's waffling while thousands died in Syria dk..funny none were Americans....and who do you help...last week you were bitching he was helping the terrorist....you are as stupid as the lamp post... his support of the terrorist Muslim Brotherhood dik..again a stupid lie...he was the Egyptian government..as we always have in order to keep the peace between Egypt and Israel....and they have swept the brotherhood out of office.... his negotiating with the terrorist in Iran dk..no, he is negotiating with the new government in Iran..not the extremist...maybe we can avert another war with some talk...like in Syria... , and his negotiating with the Taliban dk,,they are trying to talk peace with the Taliban because that is what the Afghans want...we armed the Taliban and were their buddies not too long ago.... , all while claiming Republicans were waging a war on women. Obama's foreign policy has the whole world knowing what you can't seem to understand. Barack is weak, dishonest, indecisive, has no credibility, and his word means nothing. dk...another stupid remark....but what can we expect from a big fat bigot.... If it was Romney's plan, why is Obama taking credit for it? I don't hear him calling it Romneycare. I guess Romney hired people who knew how to build a website. dk..do you live in a cave?? The tea party nuts named it Obamacare....and isn't it funny most of the problems are in states that refused to set up stations for Obamacare....the system failed because too many people liked it and tried to enroll at the same time...my Granddaughter had no problem getting the info she needs...and her payments will be a third of what she has to pay now...unlike the lies that nuts like you keep repeating... I never mentioned Crane, so I have no idea what you're talking about, so I guess we have something in common there. I'm just amazed that you continue to try and discuss subjects on which you're completely ignorant. You just embarass yourself time and again. What's funnier is your stupid enopugh to support a man who hates what you are, a Jew and a veteran. It's almost as stupid as blacks supporting Obama, when he's done nothing but worsen their plight. The only people who should logically support him are Muslims and illegals. dk..it was the other right wing nut that brought up Crane....but what I said was true....my religion seems to be a big problem with you...are you a Klan man besides aright wing nut....did it make you warm all over when the Prince of the Saudies was sleeping in the White House when the thugs his family financed flew the planes into the Towers and Pentagon.....never heard you complain about Bush kissing the Saudies rear all the time he was in office......and I still know of anything Obama has done towards the Muslims that riles your stupid ass.... |
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Post by allenreed on Oct 24, 2013 0:47:52 GMT -5
What you stubbornly refuse to acknowledge is that we're not talking about Bush. I know that's the liberal mantra when their incompetence is brought up, divert, deflect, distract. But I'm far too smart to buy into that. So many full time benefitted jobs have been lost under Obama that it is tragic. They've been largely replaced by part time minimum wage jobs, that keep people barely surviving and dependent on govt. subsidies, which is Obama's aim.
Are you saying that Jews aren't smart? You're a walking, talking example of that. I chose to be positive, but thanks for the correction.
Are you so freaking stupid that you don't think people can see the figures and forecast their impact? If only our President were smart enough to do that. Kaiser just cancelled 300,000 policies. A group in Florida cancelled a like number. I just talked to a friend who has owned a local Pizza parlor. He's owned it for over thirty years. He figures Obamacare will cost him about $6400 a month, putting him out of business.
So the lives in Syria don't matter because they're not American?! That makes it OK. Evidently, you think the holocaust was ok as well. Not many of them were Americans.
The Egyptians were smart enough to sweep Morsi out of office. In other countries they get rid of incompetent leaders. Here we re-elect them. Anyone who isn't burying their head in the sand knows that Obama was behind the Muslim Brotherhood from the jump, having them over to the White House and in fact foregoing clearance regulations on some of them. He was behind Morsi all the way. While you're at it, check on the history of the "new govt." in Iran. There's really nothing new about it.
It's interesting that Obama has said on several occasions that "We don't negotiate with terrorists" yet again and again he is doing just that, and in the case of the Muslim Brotherhood, supporting them as well. It's also interesting that he accuses the Republicans of waging a "war on women" yet is buddying up with the Taliban. I think we're both aware of their attitudes towards women.
Just today Obama claimed that he had no knowledge that the website for Obamacare was faulty until after the problems began. Really? He also claimed to have no knowledge of Fast and Furius or the IRS scandal until he heard about it on the news. Seriously? I guess his administration isn't even transparent to him. He also said you could keep your health plan if you liked it, lobbyists wouldn't have jobs in his administration, chemical weapons would be a red line in Syria, we wouldn't negotiate with terrorists etc. etc. etc. And you still want to claim he has credibility, honesy, and integrity. Really? This is a guy who's best defense is incompetence and ignorance.
Obama calls it Obamacare all the time, claimed he was proud of the name. The current problems are with the website, which cost around $500 million dollars and took three years. and is an unmitigated disaster. Evidently they did no tests on it before the rollout, as they claim to have been unaware of any potential problems. They can't even get the freakin' calculator on the website to work.
Your religion is more of a problem with Obama than it is with me. He's the one supporting a guy (Morsi) who wants to wipe Israel off the face of the Earth, and negotiating with Iranians who want to do the same, yet you support him. You're a vet right? Yet you support a guy who tried to keep the vets from their memorial and failed to pay death benefits to soldiers killed in action, all while hosting a rally for illegals on the National Mall.
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Post by dk on Oct 24, 2013 13:20:07 GMT -5
talking to you is like talking to the wall...so screw you and lets get back to baseball.....and give the reasonable people a break and leave your political lies out of it.....
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Post by allenreed on Oct 24, 2013 13:24:50 GMT -5
None so blind as he who will not see. Ignore what's going on around you if you like, Don. Just make sure that when you stick your head in the sand, you don't get any in your eyes. Trouble is, other than Mel Ott, you don't know much about baseball either.
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Post by allenreed on Oct 24, 2013 14:16:29 GMT -5
talking to you is like talking to the wall...so screw you and lets get back to baseball.....and give the reasonable people a break and leave your political lies out of it
Allen- Translation: You have no rational argument. Ok, Don.Whenever you want to try again, step up and take a swing. Notice the baseball metaphor.
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