The new diversity in congress- a MUST READ

[sharksrog]

I did some quick research into whether Omar married her brother in order to get him into the US. Nothing conclusive has been proven, and here are some comments I came across that raised doubts:

Given that Omar and her siblings all came to live in the U.S. under identical circumstances as refugees, and that Omar herself became a naturalized U.S. citizen while still a minor, how did one of her siblings end up with such a radically different immigration status that she would have needed to marry him in order to facilitate his U.S. residency application?

Also, if Ahmed Elmi were truly Omar’s brother, why would he have needed to take the drastic step of marrying her in order to secure a path to U.S. citizenship?


I'm not sure Omar didn't marry her brother, but I'm virtually certain Boly isn't either. Which he should have been to make such a claim. If he has evidence to back him up, shouldn't he post it here?

I think the ball is back in Boly's court on this one. Wouldn't you agree?

[sharksrog]

I have found no support for the statement that Omar approves of female genital mutilation. Where is your support, Boly?

I think you made a good point, Matt, that perhaps Mark should show that what Boly said wasn't true. But I think in a few minutes I've come across enough doubt that the ball is back in Boly's court to prove his statements true. He's the one who made them. If I were to make comments like that, I would have excellent backup at my disposal. Wouldn't you?

Wouldn't any reasonable and honest person? Or at least be willing to retract his statements if he couldn't prove them?

[sharksrog]

What gets me here is that what was initially a "must read" begun by Boly now seems to have become for him a "must ignore" now that I questioned whether everything he said was true and Mark stated that everything he said was false. My guess would be that there is a grain of truth in some of the things Boly said, but I have seen nothing to indicate that he or Matt try to get a broad perspective on things.

Both of them have sent me some things to back up what they have said, but what they have sent has been mostly opinions, not facts. And while I have sent them things including articles from conservative sources and quotes about Donald Trump that came directly from present and former Republicans, much if not most of what they have sent me has come from right-wing extremists or at least from sources with a right-wing slant.

The most recent thing I sent to Matt was a list of pro-China dictator quotes that came from a source that has been judged to be just slightly right of center. I read things from both sides that I question. Boly and Matt seem to question only things said by Democrats.

Matt criticized me for saying, don't vote for Democrats; don't vote for Republicans (which is mostly what I myself have done); vote instead for democracy.

No one has been able to come up with anything of substance to show what they know that the Supreme Court doesn't when it comes to the last presidential election. No one has been able to come up with anything that shows valid reasons why we shouldn't have fared much more closely to as well as the South Koreans against COVID. Despite not having anywhere close to the same access to vaccines as we have, they are below 3000 deaths, and by acting quickly and with precision, they didn't have to shut down their economy.

[sharksrog]

More silence from the person who began the thread.

[sharksrog]

So the evidence here suggests that at least one thing that Boly originally posted was wrong and that it is even possible that when Mark posted that EVERYTHING Boly posted was incorrect, Mark was right.

That Boly characterized this as a "MUST READ" (his caps) and that it apparently had inaccuracies tells us we should be very careful about what to trust from Boly. Certainly he can rebuild his credibility with us, but this thread is at present a red flag in that regard.

I know Boly and like him, but a lot of what he has sent to me has been incorrect. It appears, as Mark said, that he reads almost entirely right-wing material, which not surprisingly gives him a biased take. Boly is a good man, but it strongly appears he has been duped.

Boly has told me that Republicans fear Trump. Shouldn't that in itself set off alarms? Do we want politicians we fear or politicians we respect?

Meanwhile, Matt has implied that Trump is mentally ill with narcissism. Is that the type of politician we should be voting for?

We shouldn't be voting for someone because he's a Democrat. We shouldn't be voting for someone because he's a Republican. We should cast our votes for democracy. And once the Supreme Court says our votes were cast lawfully, we shouldn't permit anyone to try to take our votes away.

Either Donald Trump is anti-democratic in his actions, or he did a horrible job when given a clear chance to fix the Supreme Court with his nominations. If the Trump and the Republicans can't put together a Supreme Court we can believe by appointing six of the nine justices, are they backing the wrong things, or are they simply inept?

I would say they're backing a lot of the RIGHT things -- except when they back Trump. That is clearly shown by Trump pretty much crucifying anyone who has backed him a high percentage of the time but doesn't back him on his Big Lie. Barr, Pence and Kinzinger are three who backed Trump but not his Big Lie.

Who is living The Big Lie? Is it the Supreme Court, or is it you guys and Donald Trump?