once an LA slimeball, always an LA slimeball

[sfgdood]

Romo going back to where he always wanted to be. Good riddance...now we can boo him lustily without hesitation

[klaiggeb]

I'm not happy about this either, Randy, same way I was NOT happy when Kent went to LA.

But Romo is on the downside of his career, and really, when we shake everything else out... baseball is a business, and Romo needs a job.

This might have been the best offer he got.

Still...I hope it blows up in his face.

boly

[Rog]

Your Dodger hang up is showing, Randy. When I read that Sergio might be signing with the Dodgers, I knew you would post something like this. What I didn't know was how vile the title of your thread was going to be. How difficult it must be to go through life thinking about things like "slime balls."

Here's what bugs me. You never did tell is WHAT it was about Sergio's Mercedes commercials that showed him to be a Dodger lover. You seem to be all mouth and little substance. Or as Dr. Don Rose used to say, "Big mouth, little brain."

With regard to your hang up with someone being a Dodger, do you have any idea how proud a moment it was when the great Jackie Robinson was traded to the Giants? I can't forget how excited my dad was when he told me that Jackie had just been traded to the Giants. No mention of the Dodgers. Just "Jackie Robinson!"

Now you're going to say, but because of the rivalry, Jackie said he wouldn't report to the Giants, and the trade had to be called off. As has been discussed here on multiple occasions and with more backup than you've ever bothered to provide us with on much of anything, Jackie was already planning to retire and had a job lined up as a VP at Chick Fill A IIRC. (Or was that Chickfill AIIRC?)

Sadly, if Sergio is used right, he can still be a very effective weapon. He can get right-handers out alright. And while I haven't seen the deal, it's probably for a decent price, although just about all relievers are overpriced these days.

OK. A trivia question: Who was the player Jackie was traded for? I'll have to look this one up myself. Don might know.

Anyway, Randy, instead of simply being dismayed that Sergio signed with the Dodgers, think about how he can hurt the Giants. If he can't, be glad the Dodgers signed him. He'll simply take up a roster spot. If he can still pitch, be happy for one of the great relievers in Giants history that he found a job.

If you want to pick on the Dodgers, why not take delight that the state of their bullpen is such that they have to rely on former great Giants relievers such as Wilson and Romo. I have no idea how your mind works. It simply seems so full of hatred.

Step up to the plate and say something nice about someone. You'll be surprised how much better it will make you feel.

[Rog]

I've seen the answer now. The reliever traded for Jackie Robinson was the same guy who was previously traded for reliever Don Liddle.

[klaiggeb]

roger, you don't understand the depth of the hate Randy and I, and so many, MANY other Giant fans have for the Dodgers.

You don't care for the word "hate," and would rather we use a different word.

But we can't because THAT is the word that best describes how we feel about those slimeballs!

Thus, Randy and I view what Romo, Kent, and Wilson did as being traitors... even though we KNOW very well that baseball is a business.

Doesn't change our feelings at all.

boly

[sfgdood]

Here's my thing...Mike Krukow grew up in SoCal, going to Dodger stadium and loving the blue. But when he came to SF, he NEVER disrespected the Bay Area like Romo has. He never signed a FA contract with LA, putting it in the face of Giants fans, like Wilson, Romo, Butler and others. He understood the feelings of Bay Area fans and respected them. Now he joins in the hate and loves it like any fan in a great rivalry should. I don't see Romo doing that, just like Wilson didn't. It took a LONG time before Jeff Kent made amends, but I respect him for doing so.

FYI...you can easily look up Romo's Mercedes ads putting down SF and glorifying LA on Youtube. I'm not going to do your research for you.

[Islandboagie]

I hate the Dodgers. I hate the team, each individual player at varying degrees, the fans, the stadium...basically anything having to do with the Dodgers I hate.

Giants players crossing enemy lines has upset me in the past. Jeff Kent being a dodger pissed me off (he has since redeemed himself by saying he was always a Giant at heart.) Brett Butler being a dodger upset me because he said he always wanted to be a dodger.

But then came November 1st, 2010...

Sergio Romo is a Giant. He was a Giant for 3 championships, and he'll always be a Giant in my book.

For me, the players who were involved with the 3 championship seasons are frozen in Giants lore and exhalted from ever being considered an "enemy."

Brian Wilson will go down as having a key role in winning us the first World Series in San Francisco history.

Juan Uribe will go down as being one of the best utility players in S.F. history.

Those players are Giants, not Dodgers.

And Romo, he'll go down as one of the very best relievers in Giants history. Between 2010-2014 he could very well have performed better than anyone in Giants history.

Yup, I hate the Dodgers. But Sergio Romo is not a Dodger, he's a Giant and will always be a Giant.

[sfgdood]

You do as you like, Boagie...I boo EVERY Dodger/former Giant when he comes to town. I have an especially hateful place for Romo after that moon shot he gave up in the Division Series

[klaiggeb]

I understand the business part of the game, and I love what those players did for us.

But they became Dodgers... and THAT alone puts them on my "I hope you fall flat on your FACE!" list.

boly

[rxmeister]

I'm with Rog and Boagie on this. The only player I really had a problem going to the Dodgers was Juan Uribe, and that's because he left over the matter of about a million dollars. Sergio Romo waited for practically the entire off season for the Giants to make him a competitive offer, and they had no interest in retaining him. Once that happens, all bets are off. He can sign wherever he wants and I'll have no problem with it. And who has a problem with him wanting to end his career in his hometown? Besides Boly and Dood, I guess. I'll always appreciate what Sergio Romo did for the Giants, and wish him well, personally, although obviously I want his team to lose. Romo isn't even good anymore, we should be glad he's going to the Dodgers! And with as many lefty hitters as we have on the team, I expect the Giants will light him up when he pitches against us.

[klaiggeb]

Mark, it has nothing to do with appreciation. Appreciation for EVERYTHING he did for us, and in such a humble, unassuming way! He never put Sergio first, as so many players do.

It has nothing to do with logic.

It has nothing to do with common sense and understanding that it IS a business.

It has everything to do with emotion.

At least for me it does.

Romo grew up a Dodger fan...yes... he waited for the offer than never came... but in the end, as Randy suggested, it "appears" that he was always a Dodger fan at heart.

And THAT sticks in my craw.

boly

[donk33]

Feb 5, 2017 13:49:35 GMT -5 klaiggeb said:

Mark, it has nothing to do with appreciation. Appreciation for EVERYTHING he did for us, and in such a humble, unassuming way! He never put Sergio first, as so many players do.

It has nothing to do with logic.

It has nothing to do with common sense and understanding that it IS a business.

It has everything to do with emotion.

At least for me it does.

Romo grew up a Dodger fan...yes... he waited for the offer than never came... but in the end, as Randy suggested, it "appears" that he was always a Dodger fan at heart.

And THAT sticks in my craw.

boly

dk ..too bad you don't read a decent paper like the LA Times...Romo grew up in a Dodger family but was never a Dodger fan, he never wore any Dodger gear and he learned to hate the Dodgers when he played for the Giants....why is it that you right wingers always seem to take the side of the organization and not the worker bees...not even the rich, worker bees....why should the players have loyalty to the team but the team treats them like crap...how many key ball players. some who won 3 pennants for the Giants after 50 long years ,were dumped at the side of the road as soon as they didn't perform per their pay scale....Romo, Lincecum,Lopez,Blanco, Pagan, Vogelsong, Ishikawa, Duffy, Casilia, Heston, Petit, ...the list goes on and on....that is the nature of sports and I learned to expect it but I sure don't feel bad when the players look out for themselves ....by the way, where is the loyalty of the Giants when they seem to go out of the organization every time a manager's job becomes open...and  how many coachers are ex Giants of any length of time....and I don't know what   difference it makes if a kid grew up a Dodger fan and then played for the Giants......I'm sure that almost all players ended up playing for teams that they never rooted for as kids....

[Rog]

FYI...you can easily look up Romo's Mercedes ads putting down SF and glorifying LA on Youtube. I'm not going to do your research for you.


Rog -- I've seen them. What I asked though was what YOU saw that you found so reprehensible. It would be far more productive here if you actually answered the questions you were asked. I'll bet you don't answer one out of four.




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[Rog]

I haven't read the things Don refers to, but I doubt that those here who now hate Romo even care.

I guess I look at things differently. Except that they have historically been tough competition for the Giants, I don't pay them any special attention. If I allow them to make me hate them, I have given them a power I don't want to give the Dodgers or any team.

I have mentioned that once in a while there are times it works in the Giants' favor for the Dodgers to beat a more competitive opponent. Since all I do is root for the Giants, I don't have any conflict rooting for the Dodgers. If I hated the Dodgers, I would do so.

If we hate guys like Brian Wilson or Sergio Romo if he signs with the Dodgers, aren't we then being hypocritical when we root FOR the Dodgers at times? We're hating a guy for making a living with the team that pays him the most or otherwise best fits his needs, while we ourselves occasionally root FOR the Dodgers.

Love the Giants, but why waste our time hating the Dodgers? It's kind of like when I dislike the chant "Beat LA." We don't hear the LA fans chanting "Beat SF." We're giving LA a power the LA fans don't give us. It's as if we need to beat LA in order to validate ourselves.

Which would make us happier? The Giants lose every single game they play against the Dodgers, but yet win the World Series? Or the Giants have a poor season overall despite beating the Dodgers every single time? Why not focus on what is more important?

Hating LA -- or any team or city -- is childish. It's giving that city or team WAY too much power over us.

[Rog]

This hating Dodgers players simply because they're Dodgers is flat-out stupid. Let me give you a couple of personal examples.

Nate Oliver is one of the few players traded between the Giants and Dodgers. He played five seasons with the Dodgers before coming to the Giants for one. He closed out his career playing a season split between the Yankees and Cubs.

Nate wound up living his life in the Bay Area, working for Contra Costa County and refereeing basketball at the high school and collegiate levels. He also did some minor league work for the Angels. Despite those five seasons with the Dodgers, he's a great guy.

Over 20 years ago, I spent a day with Nate, and that day turned out to be one of the best of my life. I came home at night, turned on ESPN, and learned the Giants had signed Barry Bonds!

[Rog]

My second example is Steve Sax. When we hear Steve's name, we certainly think of the Dodgers. But I have it from his sister that he grew up a big Giants fan in a big Giants household. His favorite player was Chris Speier.

So when we hated Steve, what we were actually hating was a long-time Giants fan. Really smart of us, right?

[Islandboagie]

Rivalries are good for sports. Heightened emotions sell tickets. Both sides of a rivalry feed into it and make revenue off it. It's meant in good fun and entertainment. The players themselves feed into it. Calling it "stupid" is well...stupid. I understand you're not as passionate when it comes to the rivalry because you're a closet Dodgers fan, but since you follow the Dodgers and Giants you should be able to see the benefits it creates for both teams.

I remember even during the Candlestick years those Dodgers-Giants weekend series' would be sold out, or close to sold out.

Btw, the Dodgers chant "Giants suck" so it's not as one sided as you presented...imagine that, you automatically taking the side of the Dodgers again, who could have predicted that?

[Rog]

Btw, the Dodgers chant "Giants suck" so it's not as one sided as you presented..

Rog -- That's much worse than "Beat LA," which at least isn't crude. Neither one is highly distinguishing of the sayer. But of the two, "Beat LA" is far better.




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[Rog]

I don't think Randy has ever said the Dodgers suck!

[sfgdood]

FYI...you can easily look up Romo's Mercedes ads putting down SF and glorifying LA on Youtube. I'm not going to do your research for you.


Rog -- I've seen them. What I asked though was what YOU saw that you found so reprehensible. It would be far more productive here if you actually answered the questions you were asked. I'll bet you don't answer one out of four.

Dood - if you have seen them, then the question should be answered, even if you disagree with me. It seems to me many of your questions are only designed to pick unnecessary fights.

[sfgdood]

dk ..too bad you don't read a decent paper like the LA Times...Romo grew up in a Dodger family but was never a Dodger fan, he never wore any Dodger gear and he learned to hate the Dodgers when he played for the Giants....why is it that you right wingers always seem to take the side of the organization and not the worker bees...not even the rich, worker bees....why should the players have loyalty to the team but the team treats them like crap...how many key ball players. some who won 3 pennants for the Giants after 50 long years ,were dumped at the side of the road as soon as they didn't perform per their pay scale....Romo, Lincecum,Lopez,Blanco, Pagan, Vogelsong, Ishikawa, Duffy, Casilia, Heston, Petit, ...the list goes on and on....that is the nature of sports and I learned to expect it but I sure don't feel bad when the players look out for themselves ....by the way, where is the loyalty of the Giants when they seem to go out of the organization every time a manager's job becomes open...and how many coachers are ex Giants of any length of time....and I don't know what difference it makes if a kid grew up a Dodger fan and then played for the Giants......I'm sure that almost all players ended up playing for teams that they never rooted for as kids....

Dood - I would venture to guess Boly has read as many or more articles from the LA Slimes as any of us. It cracks me up when crybaby left wingers who need crayons, puppies and play dough to get over the election results lecture others on the mature way to see things. It also cracks me up when Donk says Boly and me always take management's side when just about every other poster here knows that is obviously false. Loyalty isn't shown by PC words given in a recorded interview...they are shown in actions. If Romo's (or Uribe's, Wilson's and Butler's) loyalty were real, he/they would have shunned any interest in joining the hated blue boys. But those players chose to spit in the faces of the AT&T faithful that cheered them for years. For that, Boly and I will continue to root hard against them.

[Islandboagie]

Don- why is it that you right wingers always seem to take the side of the organization and not the worker bees

Boagie- I'm a right winger and I was defending Romo. Plus nobody complains more about the upper management than Randy.

[donk33]

Feb 6, 2017 13:40:27 GMT -5 sfgdood said:

dk ..too bad you don't read a decent paper like the LA Times...Romo grew up in a Dodger family but was never a Dodger fan, he never wore any Dodger gear and he learned to hate the Dodgers when he played for the Giants....why is it that you right wingers always seem to take the side of the organization and not the worker bees...not even the rich, worker bees....why should the players have loyalty to the team but the team treats them like crap...how many key ball players. some who won 3 pennants for the Giants after 50 long years ,were dumped at the side of the road as soon as they didn't perform per their pay scale....Romo, Lincecum,Lopez,Blanco, Pagan, Vogelsong, Ishikawa, Duffy, Casilia, Heston, Petit, ...the list goes on and on....that is the nature of sports and I learned to expect it but I sure don't feel bad when the players look out for themselves ....by the way, where is the loyalty of the Giants when they seem to go out of the organization every time a manager's job becomes open...and how many coachers are ex Giants of any length of time....and I don't know what difference it makes if a kid grew up a Dodger fan and then played for the Giants......I'm sure that almost all players ended up playing for teams that they never rooted for as kids....

Dood - I would venture to guess Boly has read as many or more articles from the LA Slimes as any of us. It cracks me up when crybaby left wingers who need crayons, puppies and play dough to get over the election results lecture others on the mature way to see things. It also cracks me up when Donk says Boly and me always take management's side when just about every other poster here knows that is obviously false. Loyalty isn't shown by PC words given in a recorded interview...they are shown in actions. If Romo's (or Uribe's, Wilson's and Butler's) loyalty were real, he/they would have shunned any interest in joining the hated blue boys. But those players chose to spit in the faces of the AT&T faithful that cheered them for years. For that, Boly and I will continue to root hard against them.

dk...you have the worst example of maturity sitting in the WH.... I spent enough of my life making it possible for a slime ball like you to be able to rave and rant along with your role model in the WH.....what did you want Romo to do, kiss the rear of the Giants and beg them to take him back at minimum wage/  Romo would still be able to fill the role that Lopez filled, only from the right side...but it seems to be ok to have ""one batter LH", but not one from the right side....How could you root for the Giants with Baker, Fox or Craig as their managers???  I guess I should have never gone to my high school baseball team's honor dinner because Billy Herman and Augie Galan were the guests.....imagine two long time Cubs and now Dodgers....Augie repented and briefly became a Giant.... 

[klaiggeb]

Don, in all fairness, you're missing Randy's point, as well as mine.

We understand the business side of the game... we really do.

But like Randy, I think it's spitting in the face of all of his fans to sign with LA

Like I posted previously; it's not logic, it's emotion.


And seriously, my friend, don't even start up on who's sitting in the White House, because the rioting that has been taking place, the property destruction that has gone UN PROSECUTED, is beyond belief!

All by the left.

But don't believe me, look at some facts:

Here's an 84 second clip on Bill Clinton Railing for boarder control when HE was president.

The SAME THING the left is blasting Trump for right now.

Very short video - about 84 seconds

www.c-span.org/video/? c4351026/c



And Trump, though he doesn't know when to keep his mouth shut, is doing what no other politician has done in my 67 years of recollection: Following through on his campaign promises.

Or need I remind you and those on the left about Obama's "transparency" in the WH.

Never happened.


Ya'll on the left have very selective memories.

And ya'all supported a lady more than circumstantially linked with over 27 murders!

Why hasn't she been prosecuted or even brought up on charges?

Do some research about the "Clinton" machine and those who've mysteriously "disappeared," or worse, mysteriously "died."

I did, and I can provide you some if you'd like.

And that's enough politics on this board, but you started it.

boly

[Rog]

I understand you're not as passionate when it comes to the rivalry because you're a closet Dodgers fan


Rog -- Boagie, you're the board leader. Shouldn't you act like an adult?



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[Islandboagie]

Rog -- Boagie, you're the board leader. Shouldn't you act like an adult?

Boagie- You talk about dodger players here constantly, you have admitted watching dodgers games, you have quoted articles from dodgers publications, you defend the dodgers when anyone says something negative about them.

If it looks like a duck, swims like a duck and quacks like a duck then it's probably a duck.

[sfgdood]

The hypocrisy of the left is simply amazing. They protest and fuss like spoiled children over every single move Trump makes, ignoring that they were fully ready to shame Trump if he contested a losing result (as they continue to do months later). They wail against Trump's travel ban, forgetting that all of the last 6 presidents have imposed temporary travel bans too.

I have said many times, Trump wasn't my first choice but the left wing media spent the last 8 years so deep in Obama worship that they ignored all the factors that had people so angry with their hero. Clinton, on top of being severely flawed herself, offered nothing new, nothing fresh and nothing to suggest anybody's life would change for the better. Trump is arrogant, often says stupid things and is unlike any other politician before him. And he has promised to do things the people are fully in support of, which is why he won. And in spite of the Democrat obstructionists, he is accomplishing many of his promises in short order.

It's been comical watching the left throwing hissy fit after hissy fit while wailing about Trump's immaturity. It's going to be a fun 8 years.

[Islandboagie]

I started this by injecting a political media analogy into one of my posts about baseball, so it's my fault, but the no political discussions rule still stands.

I agree with what you're saying Randy, but let's take it to the political board that I set up for these discussions.

[sfgdood]

you know when I start political discussions, I post in the appropriate folder, Boagie...I was just responding to Donk here

[Islandboagie]

I appreciate that, Randy.