sfgdood
Long time member
stats geeks never played the game...that's why they don't get it and never will
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Post by sfgdood on Nov 26, 2015 11:57:33 GMT -5
Framing pitches is a bunch of crap. Call the pitches right or get a computer to do it
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Post by donk33 on Nov 26, 2015 12:54:15 GMT -5
I don't think I show any prejudice when I talk about Posey as I still want him in the lineup as a first baseman.....I have also felt it would be better if he hit some where outside of the power slots in the betting order as he goes too many at bats with total lack of power....
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Post by Rog on Nov 29, 2015 16:42:55 GMT -5
I don't think I show any prejudice when I talk about Posey as I still want him in the lineup as a first baseman.....I have also felt it would be better if he hit some where outside of the power slots in the betting order as he goes too many at bats with total lack of power.... Rog -- Let's look at some facts here. . You've been taking shots at Buster as long as I can remember. . One could make an argument for Buster's batting third where a team's best hitter usually hits, but he's also pretty slow on the bases. Brandon Belt gets on base and runs better than Buster. He's likely better suited to bat 3rd against righties and Hunter Pence against southpaws, with Buster batting cleanup. Let me ask you this, Don. Who is the Giants who has so much more power than Buster that it is clear that Buster shouldn't hit cleanup? Yeah, that's pretty much a rhetorical question. Here is a way we might be able to determine your objectivity about Buster. Let's suppose he plays five more years at a similar level behind the plate and then five more years after that as a good-but-not-as-good hitter who plays first base. Where would you then rank him on the list of all-time catchers? I'm thinking about a career line of something like .300/.365/.450/.815 in 2000 games, 1300 of them behind the plate. Say 250 home runs and 1250 RBI's. Read more: sfgiantsmessageboard.proboards.com/thread/3130/stop-presses-kyle-coming?page=3#ixzz3suyQYFfH
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Post by donk33 on Nov 29, 2015 21:05:28 GMT -5
I don't rate ball players...and I sure wouldn't rate a catcher by his batting average.... 5 more years of catching might slow Posey down so far that he might not be able to play any position...guys with more power...Pence, Belt, Crawford, and several of the departed players....many of the so called shots I have taken about Posey have been also aired by your bible...The Fielding Almanac....as well as Bochy...and the stats....
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Post by Islandboagie on Nov 30, 2015 14:49:29 GMT -5
Boagie- Don, Batting average should be a strong consideration with any position. And again, Bochy has never said anything negative about Posey behind the plate. I've searched a handful of times and have never found anything relevant to support your opinion.
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Post by donk33 on Dec 1, 2015 1:51:23 GMT -5
Boagie- Don, Batting average should be a strong consideration with any position. And again, Bochy has never said anything negative about Posey behind the plate. I've searched a handful of times and have never found anything relevant to support your opinion. DK..Bochy has said many times that they have to get Posey and the pitchers on the same page....the pitchers, as I read their body language, get a little pissed with how many times they have to shake off Posey....also, it was no coincidence that Lincecum had some one besides Posey as his catcher...except when Bochy felt they had to have Posey, Belt and a LF'er in the lineup....I didn't mean that I don't consider BA is important, but when I'm choosing a catcher, I think fielding comes first...but Posey's batting average needs to be in the lineup as a fielder.....The Twins recognized that early with Mauer and moved him to first...Bench went to third...Howard and Berra went to the outfield...just a few of the good catchers who were moved to keep their bats in the lineup and prolong their careers....and I don't consider Posey anything more than a mediocre catcher..with the glove...something that the Fielding Bible experts agreed with me.....
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