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Post by Rog on Jan 25, 2015 11:33:14 GMT -5
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Post by klaiggeb on Jan 25, 2015 13:36:09 GMT -5
From all of what I've read, it was Mays' age that made the difference.
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sfgdood
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stats geeks never played the game...that's why they don't get it and never will
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Post by sfgdood on Jan 25, 2015 14:04:11 GMT -5
El Dooderino --If his hitting takes a dive like his baserunning has, this could turn into a disaster.
Rog -- Absolutely. What signs are you seeing that indicate that would be the case?
Dood - none, other than he is 33 and at some point you have to expect his skills to diminish and/or that he will wear down during the season more easily
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Post by Rog on Jan 25, 2015 18:04:41 GMT -5
El Dooderino --If his hitting takes a dive like his baserunning has, this could turn into a disaster. Rog -- Absolutely. What signs are you seeing that indicate that would be the case? Dood - none, other than he is 33 and at some point you have to expect his skills to diminish and/or that he will wear down during the season more easily Rog -- No question that as a player passes through his 30's he runs the risk of decline. But I see no reason why he would take a DIVE. His power numbers have deviated, but is there any player whose batting average has been as consistent as Nori's? Based on what I see, I think there is better than a 50/50 chance Nori will improve rather than decline as a hitter. The three projections I have seen peg him for .280/.707, .277/.706 and .286/.704. Three methodologies; three really close projections. I guess that makes sense given how consistent he has been at the plate. I would rather have Michael Morse (projections .265/.770, .259/.752, and .270/.775), but Aoki is much cheaper. I thought Morse was complemented extremely well by Gregor Blanco, and Aoki isn't the hitter Morse is, but Aoki's defense is far better. Obviously Morse has more power, but Aoki can pick up some of the slack with his getting on base and his fielding. If Pagan is hurt again and Blanco moves to center, I think I like Aoki as well as Morse. But as long as Pagan and Blanco remain healthy, I prefer Morse. It comes down to how important defense is. Aoki's advantage in the field is much more than Morse's advantage at the plate. How one rates the importance of offense compared to defense might make the difference in which player he would prefer. If Aoki takes away a hit a week more than Morse, Nori is likely the better player. If the difference is half that, probably Morse is better. Read more: sfgiantsmessageboard.proboards.com/thread/2669/salvage-off-season?page=2#ixzz3PsO0JPsb |
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Post by Rog on Jan 25, 2015 18:06:59 GMT -5
One thing about Aoki is that he's built for AT&T Park. Fast, contact hitter, hits the ball on the ground or as a line drive, not in the air.
A healthy Aoki and Pagan would almost certainly be better than the Pagan/Morse/Blanco/etc. combo of last season.
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Post by donk33 on Jan 25, 2015 19:45:37 GMT -5
dk...I was referring to Monte's last year in AAA before he was called up when Monte had .510/691/1.216/1.907...and he had 10 HR's in 81 at bats... and he was a very good fielder but the Giants moved him around too much...2B in the Negro League...and played all over the field in the majors...Monte got the call after Jackie....I can only dream what he might have been if he was able to play in his prime... |
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