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Post by sharksrog on Sept 8, 2013 10:28:29 GMT -5
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sfgdood
Long time member
stats geeks never played the game...that's why they don't get it and never will
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Post by sfgdood on Sept 9, 2013 15:31:09 GMT -5
Randy -- Umpires blow calls on a regular basis. Strike zones are fickle creatures in any game...even in the big leagues. It's part of the game.
Rog -- And also part of why luck is also a part of the game. When an umpire blows a call, it is good luck for one team and bad luck for the other. At the point at which the umpire makes the call, BOTH teams have lost control.
Dood - you can call it luck if you want to but unless it effects a "walk off" or potentially game ENDING type of play, then both teams have much control still.
Announcers sometimes imply as much when they say "That call could have gone either way."
Dood - which is just another way of absolving the umpires from their responsibility to get the calls right. It drives me absolutely CRAZY when Krukow says "there's no way the ump could get that call wrong." Uhhh, no Mike...every call has a right and wrong decision to it. Sometimes it's hard to tell what that is, but there is always a wrong call. This is why the use of replay needs to be expanded in order to get less calls wrong and hold bad umps accountable.
~Dood
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Post by sharksrog on Sept 9, 2013 17:46:52 GMT -5
Randy -- Umpires blow calls on a regular basis. Strike zones are fickle creatures in any game...even in the big leagues. It's part of the game. Rog -- And also part of why luck is also a part of the game. When an umpire blows a call, it is good luck for one team and bad luck for the other. At the point at which the umpire makes the call, BOTH teams have lost control. Dood - you can call it luck if you want to but unless it effects a "walk off" or potentially game ENDING type of play, then both teams have much control still. Rog -- Isn't that kind of like saying that a homer hit by an opponent in the 3rd inning really isn't that important, since both teams still have a reasonable amount of control? By the way, the error that helped the Giants win game 3 came with two outs in the bottom of the 9th, and the one that helped them win game 4 came in the 7th, so the Braves lost quite a bit of control. If someone had said the Giants won ONLY by luck, you would have proven that not to be the case. But no one made that claim. Luck is a part of the game. You could look it up. Read more: sfgiantsmessageboard.proboards.com/index.cgi?action=display&board=general&thread=1993&page=2#14804#ixzz2eRCsMdVw
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Post by sharksrog on Sept 9, 2013 17:49:41 GMT -5
Rog -- Announcers sometimes imply as much when they say "That call could have gone either way." Dood - which is just another way of absolving the umpires from their responsibility to get the calls right. Rog -- But which has nothing to do with whether an umpire's missing a call is luck or not. Since neither team has control of, it most definitely is luck. As you pointed out, it is the responsiblity of the umpires to get the call right. At that point both teams have lost control of the play. Why do you persist in saying that the outcomes of games aren't affected by luck, Randy? That's as foolish as saying they aren't affected by home runs. Read more: sfgiantsmessageboard.proboards.com/index.cgi?action=display&board=general&thread=1993&page=2#ixzz2eRFdxDrj
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Post by sharksrog on Sept 9, 2013 17:51:51 GMT -5
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